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Using defensive structures offensively in such a way does seem like such an RTS tactic that probably wouldn't get used IRL - does any have any examples to prove

Using defensive structures offensively in such a way does seem like such an RTS tactic that probably wouldn't get used IRL - does any have any examples to prove me wrong?

slowmovintarget 8y ago
The closest real life has come to that is to assemble siege engines (like trebuchet) on the battlefield before use. Actual turrets on an active battlefield? Not against a modern military, but maybe something like this: https://mwi.usma.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Spencer234.jpg https://mwi.usma.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Spencer234.j...
blattimwind 8y ago
Early siege towers were basically what you'd consider a watch tower, but on some kind of rollers.
cmroanirgo 8y ago
> does any[one] have any examples to prove me wrong? Perhaps NATO [0] in: - Turkey (1952) - Poland, Hungary (1999) - Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Bulgaria, etc (2004) - Ukraine (2017) ...might qualify as this tactic? "The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union." [1] [0] https://www.nato.int/nato-on-the-map/ https://www.nato.int/nato-on-the-map/ [1] https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/nato https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/nato (EDIT: Formatting)
RyanZAG 8y ago
WW1 trench warfare. Trenches generally had pillboxes which could be described as defensive structures, and the entire trench warfare was about slowly building these defensive structures towards the enemy.
- lostlogin 8y ago
  Tunnels were part of this too along with defensive counter tunnels. These go back a surprisingly long way and it’s worth reading the Wikipedia page for the ancient Greek account of tunnel warfare. The way they detected enemy tunnelling activity is clever. Modern offensive tunnels pop up in the news regularly in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and occasionally with Noth Korea too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_warfare https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_warfare
  - edw 8y ago
    Since you mentioned the Greeks, anyone with the slightest interest in Ancient Greece should read “A War Like No Other” by Victor Davis Hanson. It’s a fascinating account of the Peloponnesian War. There’s a chapter on siege warfare.
picsao 8y ago
We have mines deployed by artillery. Basically turrets with one shot denying a area thought safe.

Using defensive structures offensively in such a way does seem like such an RTS tactic that probably wouldn't get used IRL - does any have any examples to prove me wrong?

slowmovintarget 8y ago

The closest real life has come to that is to assemble siege engines (like trebuchet) on the battlefield before use. Actual turrets on an active battlefield? Not against a modern military, but maybe something like this: https://mwi.usma.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Spencer234.jpg https://mwi.usma.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Spencer234.j...

blattimwind 8y ago

Early siege towers were basically what you'd consider a watch tower, but on some kind of rollers.

cmroanirgo 8y ago

> does any[one] have any examples to prove me wrong? Perhaps NATO [0] in: - Turkey (1952) - Poland, Hungary (1999) - Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Bulgaria, etc (2004) - Ukraine (2017) ...might qualify as this tactic? "The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union." [1] [0] https://www.nato.int/nato-on-the-map/ https://www.nato.int/nato-on-the-map/ [1] https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/nato https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/nato (EDIT: Formatting)

RyanZAG 8y ago

WW1 trench warfare. Trenches generally had pillboxes which could be described as defensive structures, and the entire trench warfare was about slowly building these defensive structures towards the enemy.

lostlogin 8y ago
Tunnels were part of this too along with defensive counter tunnels. These go back a surprisingly long way and it’s worth reading the Wikipedia page for the ancient Greek account of tunnel warfare. The way they detected enemy tunnelling activity is clever. Modern offensive tunnels pop up in the news regularly in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and occasionally with Noth Korea too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_warfare https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_warfare
- edw 8y ago
  Since you mentioned the Greeks, anyone with the slightest interest in Ancient Greece should read “A War Like No Other” by Victor Davis Hanson. It’s a fascinating account of the Peloponnesian War. There’s a chapter on siege warfare.

picsao 8y ago

We have mines deployed by artillery. Basically turrets with one shot denying a area thought safe.