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You want a scary precedent ? look at DMCA and it's been used to intimidate and bully all over the world and outside US jurisdiction (the pirate bay case showed
by bigbugbag 8y ago
You want a scary precedent ? look at DMCA and it's been used to intimidate and bully all over the world and outside US jurisdiction (the pirate bay case showed that US government outreach went to threat of economic sanctions to a foreign government).
The GDPR is probably not what you think is, because it barely introduces new stuff, it only enforces what already existed but was ignored because it was based on self-regulation.
There are a number a publications about RGPD explaining that there really nothing to panic about (unless you're a giant conglomerate), it's not going to kill your business unless your business is based on violating privacy and things you should not be doing in the first place because it's been illegal for a while and you had 2 years since the announcement to respect the law.
> If you want none of your personal info on the web, I have a suggestion: Don't participate in forums, social media, etc.
Does not work that way, actually thanks to RGPD it's now: if you don't want to deal with RGPD requests don't collect or process personal data.
- zerostar07 8y agoby comparison, you literally don't need to do anything to implement DMCA, except perhaps respond to emails. (I wonder why this is contestable? DMCA is an afterthought, GDPR requires a lot of actual work to implement even if you process minimal data like IPs)
- garmaine 8y agoAnd if you respond to those emails you’re not still in danger of a business-closing fine.
- simion314 8y agoSame for GDPR, you just respond to the users with "I don't collect anything on my website". Now if you collect and track you may want to inform the users and let them opt-out. GDPR is similar in a way with the Don't spam me laws, I assume you had to write code to respect this law and I did not see people complaining that they need to write code to respect that law. Or you can not do business with EU citizens.
- zerostar07 8y agoYou haven't read it, i presume. The implementation requires a lot more than that.
- simion314 8y agoNo, because I am not a business owner so I am not interested in all the details, my interest is an internet user, I am fine with popups that allow me to opt out, I am also fine with websites that will block me(like the newspapers one) because I will find an alternative that does not track me. I understand that you may have some small websites and you put on them who knows how many trackers/analytics and now is time consuming to go to those websites and implement something, but we needed this law the same as we needed the don't spam me law, it will take effort to fix existing sites but is for the best.
- DoreenMichele 8y agoI realize that I am sort of the pot calling the kettle black here because I also have not read it, but I am making meta commentary on observable and inferable unintended consequences disproportionately impacting smaller organizations while you are arguing the details of how to comply without really knowing anything about it. The kind of observations I am making are not actually dependent on me understanding the details of the law. The kind of rebuttals you are making that hand wave off the concerns of businesses and other organizations do hinge on knowing those details. Your rebuttals really have no basis.
- simion314 8y agoThe thing is I don't know how this law could be "nicer" for small sites but continue to be fair. I feel a bit bad for small creators that need to fix their sites but at the same time I dislike the people that are trying to find possible loopholes around the law, fixing all this loopholes and workarounds is the reason the laws have long texts. Do you have a website or something that is affected? I only have a simple site that I used some time ago as CV and for testing, I never had tracking scripts,analytics, referrals. I am also the opinion if you don't want to respect my privacy then tell me that and block my access.