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Current iPad trounces the Samsung in all these categories (except Android support, of course), though, and costs less too. And has a better aspect ratio. And is

by Bud 8y ago

Current iPad trounces the Samsung in all these categories (except Android support, of course), though, and costs less too. And has a better aspect ratio. And is much lighter.

_emacsomancer_ 8y ago
> is much lighter presumably because of (lack of) keyboard.
- Bud 8y ago
  It's lighter even if you include Apple's (very nice) keyboard. And has a higher build quality.
  - diffeomorphism 8y ago
    Its $100+ keyboard? And that is still missing the $100 pencil. And you get a smaller screen. If you want a 12 inch screen with keyboard and pen this starts at $850. Suprise, double the price gives you something marginally nicer.
    - _emacsomancer_ 8y ago
      > double the price gives you something marginally nicer. But then you have use an iOS walled garden.
shasheene 8y ago
I initially bought it only for laptop-mode (web-browsing and Google Docs). The keyboard and touchpad are pretty great. The tablet-mode has just been a convenient bonus for reading when laying down. While I think it has the perfect form-factor for a laptop (thin, light and great battery life), it's not the perfect general-use laptop as it can't run arbitrary x86 applications natively, nor has high specs. (I hope Project Crostini will make it a suitable for some light dev work though). Its touchpad is great, and so is the Chromebook-style keyboard (small tweak I'd make would be a double-width backspace key, but I for sure prefer no Super key and no F1 to F12 row). It may not the perfect tablet because as you say, iPad is lighter, and the ergonomics of a hinged hybrid will always be slightly worse with a keyboard on the back. But it does a really good job. While arguably imperfect in isolation, together as a single unibody aluminum device, it is the best device I have ever used. For what it is, it's very very cheap, you're right it may be slightly more expensive than an iPad (and the price hasn't really fell since it came out a while ago).
stoolpigeon 8y ago
It's doesn't cost less once you add the pencil and a keyboard unless I'm missing something.
pjmlp 8y ago
Samsung also has W10 tablets, and for my use cases, iPad surely doesn't trounces those.

by Bud 8y ago

Current iPad trounces the Samsung in all these categories (except Android support, of course), though, and costs less too. And has a better aspect ratio. And is much lighter.

_emacsomancer_ 8y ago

> is much lighter presumably because of (lack of) keyboard.

Bud 8y ago
It's lighter even if you include Apple's (very nice) keyboard. And has a higher build quality.
- diffeomorphism 8y ago
  Its $100+ keyboard? And that is still missing the $100 pencil. And you get a smaller screen. If you want a 12 inch screen with keyboard and pen this starts at $850. Suprise, double the price gives you something marginally nicer.
  - _emacsomancer_ 8y ago
    > double the price gives you something marginally nicer. But then you have use an iOS walled garden.

shasheene 8y ago

I initially bought it only for laptop-mode (web-browsing and Google Docs). The keyboard and touchpad are pretty great. The tablet-mode has just been a convenient bonus for reading when laying down. While I think it has the perfect form-factor for a laptop (thin, light and great battery life), it's not the perfect general-use laptop as it can't run arbitrary x86 applications natively, nor has high specs. (I hope Project Crostini will make it a suitable for some light dev work though). Its touchpad is great, and so is the Chromebook-style keyboard (small tweak I'd make would be a double-width backspace key, but I for sure prefer no Super key and no F1 to F12 row). It may not the perfect tablet because as you say, iPad is lighter, and the ergonomics of a hinged hybrid will always be slightly worse with a keyboard on the back. But it does a really good job. While arguably imperfect in isolation, together as a single unibody aluminum device, it is the best device I have ever used. For what it is, it's very very cheap, you're right it may be slightly more expensive than an iPad (and the price hasn't really fell since it came out a while ago).

stoolpigeon 8y ago

It's doesn't cost less once you add the pencil and a keyboard unless I'm missing something.

pjmlp 8y ago

Samsung also has W10 tablets, and for my use cases, iPad surely doesn't trounces those.