Haven't really used group chats that much on it, but for call establishment, I stand behind my words when I say it used to be a lot better. With P2P it would s

Haven't really used group chats that much on it, but for call establishment, I stand behind my words when I say it used to be a lot better. With P2P it would sometimes take a bit longer (10 seconds?) but it would always work. When it wouldn't, it was because of a problem on either one of the endpoints, and switching network connections or rebooting the router fixed it. With the current model it would just randomly not work (the client also sucks and sometimes hangs in an inconsistent state after the failed call attempts), without anything we can do - it's something with the software and/or servers. I used to trust Skype calls to actually go through - now even if I see "ringing" I have no faith in whether it's actually ringing on the other side (and if it was, whether the call would actually connect once picked up).