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I disagree and I strongly discourage you from shooting people. There is still a large portion of the public who don't know what civil forfeiture is or why it's

by JackCh 8y ago

I disagree and I strongly discourage you from shooting people. There is still a large portion of the public who don't know what civil forfeiture is or why it's a bad thing. If you want to make a difference the best thing you can do right is educate people.

chmod775 8y ago
> I disagree He's factually correct though. I don't see how you can disagree with the fact that the supreme court already ruled these practices legal (jury), neither republicans nor democrats managed to fix the matter (ballot), and the average american showers once a day... Stories like these have been all over the news under both republican and democratic presidents and congress - nothing changed. Don't give people a four-step program and then act aghast they're considering to go through with it. Find a better four-step program/quote instead.
- JackCh 8y ago
  >"He's factually correct though." It's not a fact that soap box options have been exhausted. It's merely your opinion that the soap box has been tried enough, to the point that giving up on trying to inform and persuade people is rational and/or ethical. But... is that actually your opinion? You're here arguing online using your soap box, instead of waging a guerilla war against the system. So I think in actual fact you haven't given up on the soap box. Or at least you still see value in the soap box for purposes of inciting a rebellion?
manicdee 8y ago
The soap box has already been used. People don't care. The ballot box has already been used. Both sides either take no action or work to extend the practise. People still don't care. The jury box has already been used, the supreme court has ruled this legal. People still don't care. If you think it's too soon to resort to the ammo box, you need to reevaluate your perspective on the government in the USA. Remember, "all it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing."
- JackCh 8y ago
  The soap box has not been exhausted. It's not something you use once or twice and then give up on. And because the soap box has not been exhausted, the ballot box has necessarily not been employed to the full extent. The ammo box is for truly extreme situations such as when the results of the ballot box are being disregarded and the courts choose not to intervene or are incapable of meaningfully intervening. Ironically, right now, you are using the soap box and not the ammo box. You're arguing your viewpoint online instead of killing people. That's a good thing, keep at it.
  - manicdee 8y ago
    At what point do you consider the soap box exhausted?

by JackCh 8y ago

chmod775 8y ago

> I disagree He's factually correct though. I don't see how you can disagree with the fact that the supreme court already ruled these practices legal (jury), neither republicans nor democrats managed to fix the matter (ballot), and the average american showers once a day... Stories like these have been all over the news under both republican and democratic presidents and congress - nothing changed. Don't give people a four-step program and then act aghast they're considering to go through with it. Find a better four-step program/quote instead.

JackCh 8y ago
>"He's factually correct though." It's not a fact that soap box options have been exhausted. It's merely your opinion that the soap box has been tried enough, to the point that giving up on trying to inform and persuade people is rational and/or ethical. But... is that actually your opinion? You're here arguing online using your soap box, instead of waging a guerilla war against the system. So I think in actual fact you haven't given up on the soap box. Or at least you still see value in the soap box for purposes of inciting a rebellion?

manicdee 8y ago

The soap box has already been used. People don't care. The ballot box has already been used. Both sides either take no action or work to extend the practise. People still don't care. The jury box has already been used, the supreme court has ruled this legal. People still don't care. If you think it's too soon to resort to the ammo box, you need to reevaluate your perspective on the government in the USA. Remember, "all it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing."

JackCh 8y ago
The soap box has not been exhausted. It's not something you use once or twice and then give up on. And because the soap box has not been exhausted, the ballot box has necessarily not been employed to the full extent. The ammo box is for truly extreme situations such as when the results of the ballot box are being disregarded and the courts choose not to intervene or are incapable of meaningfully intervening. Ironically, right now, you are using the soap box and not the ammo box. You're arguing your viewpoint online instead of killing people. That's a good thing, keep at it.
- manicdee 8y ago
  At what point do you consider the soap box exhausted?