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If it were maybe 5 years ago I would be horrified, but under Nadella they are a lot less ... Microsoft-y.

by d0lph 8y ago

someonewhocar3s 8y ago
Golden comment for me tbh. The real nightmare is we'll hand it all to Nadella. Microsoft reaches market capture/coercive monopoly. Nadella leaves, a new frontman comes to exploit according to tried-and-true strategies. (Nadella as a response to loss of monopoly, aimed at regaining market dominance) Acquiring Github fits /perfectly/ into Ballmer-Microsoft's "developers, developers, developers", and the current Visual Studio strategy. This would establish a market-capture-synergy between Internet Explorer / Chakra / Nodejs / Github / Visual Studio / Visual Studio Code / .net / ~Microsoft. OTOH Github's commitment to maintaining code that competes with Microsoft's products creates an incredible amount of conflict of interest. If Microsoft can pull it off without rejecting the Open Source incumbents, this would benefit their image tremendously. Github won't be eager to sell, but how's near a gigaM$ sound? This could be a major takeover.
singingfish 8y ago
I was at a container orchestration conference the other day, and got the distinct impression that microsoft are not the great satan, and azure is probably a really good choice for cloud service. I can't believe I'm saying that. I'm having dinner with a prolific debian maintainer tonight, maybe he'll beat some sense into me.
- mhh__ 8y ago
  They actually have to compete now, is why. I assume
- OkGoDoIt 8y ago
  I agree in theory, but have you ever actually tried to use Azure? The management interface is ridiculously overcomplicated. It feels very “Microsofty”
  - uiri 8y ago
    The REST APIs and CLI/Powershell interfaces are much, much nicer. The web Portal seems to get revamped every other year and the latest incarnation is not very good.
  - singingfish 8y ago
    no I haven't used azure in anger but I have colleagues that have. Personally I care not for GUIs so by the sounds of it the API side is ok.
  - avinium 8y ago
    I do, and while it's not perfect, I find it fairly serviceable. AWS, on the other hand, I found an absolute nightmare (though to be fair, I haven't touched it in 2 years).
  - manigandham 8y ago
    All 3 major clouds have consoles that are good in certain things but mostly bad. Azure's console made a big mistake with the vertical blade design, but at least it always loads fast.
borplk 8y ago
That's what they want you to believe :D
organicmultiloc 8y ago
I don't know why every massive corporation is trying to rebrand as "the friendly AI conglomerate!" but I'm not buying it for Microsoft or anyone else.

If it were maybe 5 years ago I would be horrified, but under Nadella they are a lot less ... Microsoft-y.

by d0lph 8y ago

If it were maybe 5 years ago I would be horrified, but under Nadella they are a lot less ... Microsoft-y.

Golden comment for me tbh. The real nightmare is we'll hand it all to Nadella. Microsoft reaches market capture/coercive monopoly. Nadella leaves, a new frontman comes to exploit according to tried-and-true strategies. (Nadella as a response to loss of monopoly, aimed at regaining market dominance) Acquiring Github fits /perfectly/ into Ballmer-Microsoft's "developers, developers, developers", and the current Visual Studio strategy. This would establish a market-capture-synergy between Internet Explorer / Chakra / Nodejs / Github / Visual Studio / Visual Studio Code / .net / ~Microsoft. OTOH Github's commitment to maintaining code that competes with Microsoft's products creates an incredible amount of conflict of interest. If Microsoft can pull it off without rejecting the Open Source incumbents, this would benefit their image tremendously. Github won't be eager to sell, but how's near a gigaM$ sound? This could be a major takeover.

singingfish 8y ago

I was at a container orchestration conference the other day, and got the distinct impression that microsoft are not the great satan, and azure is probably a really good choice for cloud service. I can't believe I'm saying that. I'm having dinner with a prolific debian maintainer tonight, maybe he'll beat some sense into me.

mhh__ 8y ago
They actually have to compete now, is why. I assume
OkGoDoIt 8y ago
I agree in theory, but have you ever actually tried to use Azure? The management interface is ridiculously overcomplicated. It feels very “Microsofty”
- uiri 8y ago
  The REST APIs and CLI/Powershell interfaces are much, much nicer. The web Portal seems to get revamped every other year and the latest incarnation is not very good.
- singingfish 8y ago
  no I haven't used azure in anger but I have colleagues that have. Personally I care not for GUIs so by the sounds of it the API side is ok.
- avinium 8y ago
  I do, and while it's not perfect, I find it fairly serviceable. AWS, on the other hand, I found an absolute nightmare (though to be fair, I haven't touched it in 2 years).
- manigandham 8y ago
  All 3 major clouds have consoles that are good in certain things but mostly bad. Azure's console made a big mistake with the vertical blade design, but at least it always loads fast.

borplk 8y ago

That's what they want you to believe :D

organicmultiloc 8y ago

I don't know why every massive corporation is trying to rebrand as "the friendly AI conglomerate!" but I'm not buying it for Microsoft or anyone else.