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An acquisition would mean the inevitable split of support between the MS toolchain and the OS toolchain, which would eventually be left to die. Today's MS is no

An acquisition would mean the inevitable split of support between the MS toolchain and the OS toolchain, which would eventually be left to die. Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS.

ams6110 8y ago
> Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS I'm not sure that's true, but it is true that MS would have motivation to leverage Github to promote other (licensed) MS software. At a conference years ago, a Microsoft rep told me over beers that almost everything his division did had the ultimate objective of selling more SQL Server licenses. That's why SQL Server is a required component of almost all MS enterprise software. So you might for instance see a SQL Server backend option, and then "Github Enterprise" sold with that configuration.
- sdesol 8y ago
  > leverage Github to promote other (licensed) MS software. This is pretty much business 101. You have loss leaders, that are solely designed to drive traffic to different products.
- tracker1 8y ago
  Considering how many Windows admins would prefer it that way, I wouldn't blame them. (Not that I agree)
tomnipotent 8y ago
> Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS. This is the silliest thing I've read on HN in awhile.
- TooBrokeToBeg 8y ago
  Give it time. MS does what it has always done to competitors (even to MS internal products) that it acquires. Takes awhile sometimes and you younger kid will get to live through what others already have.
  - tomnipotent 8y ago
    I'm probably older than you, but thanks for the condescension.
    - ebcode 8y ago
      >>This is the silliest thing I've read on HN in awhile. It appears that what goes around does, in fact, come around.
    - TooBrokeToBeg 8y ago
      It's history, not condescension. Weird to take it so personally. If you are older than me, you already know the pattern, meaning you're being disingenuous (or deliberately ignorant) to dismiss it.
markmark 8y ago
MS just want you using Azure and don't care whose toolchain you use. If they bought GitHub it would be entirely so they could get people _not_ using other MS products onto Azure. So there is no way they kill off the OS toolchain and turn it in to another VSTS.

An acquisition would mean the inevitable split of support between the MS toolchain and the OS toolchain, which would eventually be left to die. Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS.

ams6110 8y ago

> Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS I'm not sure that's true, but it is true that MS would have motivation to leverage Github to promote other (licensed) MS software. At a conference years ago, a Microsoft rep told me over beers that almost everything his division did had the ultimate objective of selling more SQL Server licenses. That's why SQL Server is a required component of almost all MS enterprise software. So you might for instance see a SQL Server backend option, and then "Github Enterprise" sold with that configuration.

sdesol 8y ago
> leverage Github to promote other (licensed) MS software. This is pretty much business 101. You have loss leaders, that are solely designed to drive traffic to different products.
tracker1 8y ago
Considering how many Windows admins would prefer it that way, I wouldn't blame them. (Not that I agree)

tomnipotent 8y ago

> Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS. This is the silliest thing I've read on HN in awhile.

TooBrokeToBeg 8y ago
Give it time. MS does what it has always done to competitors (even to MS internal products) that it acquires. Takes awhile sometimes and you younger kid will get to live through what others already have.
- tomnipotent 8y ago
  I'm probably older than you, but thanks for the condescension.
  - ebcode 8y ago
    >>This is the silliest thing I've read on HN in awhile. It appears that what goes around does, in fact, come around.
  - TooBrokeToBeg 8y ago
    It's history, not condescension. Weird to take it so personally. If you are older than me, you already know the pattern, meaning you're being disingenuous (or deliberately ignorant) to dismiss it.

markmark 8y ago

MS just want you using Azure and don't care whose toolchain you use. If they bought GitHub it would be entirely so they could get people _not_ using other MS products onto Azure. So there is no way they kill off the OS toolchain and turn it in to another VSTS.