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Those ads seem to indicate to me that things are much worse, traffic wise, than it seems from the outside. Moreover, IMO there is a danger of Streisand effect

by yumraj 8y ago

Those ads seem to indicate to me that things are much worse, traffic wise, than it seems from the outside. Moreover, IMO there is a danger of Streisand effect for users who may be using FB despite everything..

anf 8y ago
As someone who left Facebook awhile ago mostly because life got busy, those ads seem to solidify an (alternative?) narrative of why I left rather than urge me to come back.
- bredren 8y ago
  Fake News / Facebook's impact on the 2016 election is only part of why I avoid it now. I also believe the site caused / causes instagrammification of people's lives. Which is sort of like Fake News of personality or false lifestyle chasing meaningless likes. I believe other institutions have caused people to live out false lives prior to Facebook as well. But I can actually damage facebook by _not_ posting content and not sharing my life there. I don't even have to encourage others not to. I just have to avoid resolving the domain.
  - anf 8y ago
    I don't think likes are meaningless — they tap into a very primal need for social status and peer approval. It's a stupid game, but like many other stupid games, it's effective!
    - bredren 8y ago
      I grant you that, it is effective at getting page views and ad revenue.
    - wolco 8y ago
      They miss out on the social status a dislike can give. To be against something is easier for many then to be for something.
- yumraj 8y ago
  That too. I saw the ad for the first time yesterday during the Warriors game, as we don’t watch live TV, only stream. Two observations: 1) as you said there was nothing in that ad that would make me come back, rather if I had not already been aware of it I would have searched about it to learn - the Streisand effect. 2) there was another similar ad, from another company, about breaking trust, Wells Fargo bank -> nuff said.
  - TAForObvReasons 8y ago
    Uber is running the same sort of ads, featuring the new CEO talking about doing right by customers
mtgx 8y ago
Of course they are. And we knew engagement dropped significantly last year before the Cambridge Analytica happened. I found it weird how so many people still believed Zuckerberg when he said the scandal hardly affected them. As if Zuckerberg would never try to be misleading with the facts.

by yumraj 8y ago

anf 8y ago

As someone who left Facebook awhile ago mostly because life got busy, those ads seem to solidify an (alternative?) narrative of why I left rather than urge me to come back.

bredren 8y ago
Fake News / Facebook's impact on the 2016 election is only part of why I avoid it now. I also believe the site caused / causes instagrammification of people's lives. Which is sort of like Fake News of personality or false lifestyle chasing meaningless likes. I believe other institutions have caused people to live out false lives prior to Facebook as well. But I can actually damage facebook by _not_ posting content and not sharing my life there. I don't even have to encourage others not to. I just have to avoid resolving the domain.
- anf 8y ago
  I don't think likes are meaningless — they tap into a very primal need for social status and peer approval. It's a stupid game, but like many other stupid games, it's effective!
  - bredren 8y ago
    I grant you that, it is effective at getting page views and ad revenue.
  - wolco 8y ago
    They miss out on the social status a dislike can give. To be against something is easier for many then to be for something.
yumraj 8y ago
That too. I saw the ad for the first time yesterday during the Warriors game, as we don’t watch live TV, only stream. Two observations: 1) as you said there was nothing in that ad that would make me come back, rather if I had not already been aware of it I would have searched about it to learn - the Streisand effect. 2) there was another similar ad, from another company, about breaking trust, Wells Fargo bank -> nuff said.
- TAForObvReasons 8y ago
  Uber is running the same sort of ads, featuring the new CEO talking about doing right by customers

mtgx 8y ago

Of course they are. And we knew engagement dropped significantly last year before the Cambridge Analytica happened. I found it weird how so many people still believed Zuckerberg when he said the scandal hardly affected them. As if Zuckerberg would never try to be misleading with the facts.