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Since it only includes a link and summary, no value added, why not submit original link? https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/06/removing-trending/ https://newsroo

by Elect2 8y ago

Since it only includes a link and summary, no value added, why not submit original link? https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/06/removing-trending/ https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/06/removing-trending/

jawilson2 8y ago
Kind of unrelated: when I click this link in Firefox, it seems to erase the history for the current tab, and the back button doesn't work. It looks like it works in Chrome though. What is going on?
- inetknght 8y ago
  Facebook using dark UX patterns?
- ovao 8y ago
  I checked in Firefox Quantum 61.0b and it doesn't disable the back button, so this potentially only affects the stable version.
- zentiggr 8y ago
  Firefox's Facebook Container. Segregate any FB url from the rest of the browser state to minimize tracking etc.
minimaxir 8y ago
I submitted that link a couple hours ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17206065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17206065), but it got no upvotes, and eventually duped to this submission.
- dang 8y ago
  Yes, sorry—there's randomness in what gets upvoted and the order we happen to see things in. The best current answer for this is "keep posting good things and it evens out in the long run". But we're working on some ideas about how to link related submissions and distribute karma more fairly. It's not that the karma matters so much, but I do think that rewarding earlier submitters would incentivize the most valuable behavior on HN, which is to find good stories that haven't been posted yet and post them.
  - DanBC 8y ago
    Or it'll incentivise people to post like bots and submit everything possible. The old guideline (don't post so much that you dominate the page) feels a bit out of date.
    - dang 8y ago
      That problem is detectable. If we have to, we'll write software to deal with it. In the meantime, if you see someone dominating the /newest page with their submissions, it would be good to let us know (hn@ycombinator.com) so we can rate-limit the account.
- Elect2 8y ago
  >but it got no upvotes I guess it's because of the title "Removing Trending from Facebook". The title is OK on Facebook news site. But in here it sounds like a guide. Your second submission has a more clear title.
delbel 8y ago
I am not able to click on this due to having facebook blocked at my router, but the original link worked.

by Elect2 8y ago

jawilson2 8y ago

Kind of unrelated: when I click this link in Firefox, it seems to erase the history for the current tab, and the back button doesn't work. It looks like it works in Chrome though. What is going on?

inetknght 8y ago
Facebook using dark UX patterns?
ovao 8y ago
I checked in Firefox Quantum 61.0b and it doesn't disable the back button, so this potentially only affects the stable version.
zentiggr 8y ago
Firefox's Facebook Container. Segregate any FB url from the rest of the browser state to minimize tracking etc.

minimaxir 8y ago

I submitted that link a couple hours ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17206065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17206065), but it got no upvotes, and eventually duped to this submission.

dang 8y ago
Yes, sorry—there's randomness in what gets upvoted and the order we happen to see things in. The best current answer for this is "keep posting good things and it evens out in the long run". But we're working on some ideas about how to link related submissions and distribute karma more fairly. It's not that the karma matters so much, but I do think that rewarding earlier submitters would incentivize the most valuable behavior on HN, which is to find good stories that haven't been posted yet and post them.
- DanBC 8y ago
  Or it'll incentivise people to post like bots and submit everything possible. The old guideline (don't post so much that you dominate the page) feels a bit out of date.
  - dang 8y ago
    That problem is detectable. If we have to, we'll write software to deal with it. In the meantime, if you see someone dominating the /newest page with their submissions, it would be good to let us know (hn@ycombinator.com) so we can rate-limit the account.
Elect2 8y ago
>but it got no upvotes I guess it's because of the title "Removing Trending from Facebook". The title is OK on Facebook news site. But in here it sounds like a guide. Your second submission has a more clear title.

delbel 8y ago

I am not able to click on this due to having facebook blocked at my router, but the original link worked.