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Would also love to buy a great electric motorcycle/scooter. It's puzzling how much more robust the ebike market is compared to the electric vespa market. It i

by joshe 8y ago

Would also love to buy a great electric motorcycle/scooter. It's puzzling how much more robust the ebike market is compared to the electric vespa market. It isn't even a price issue, fancy ebikes are about the same cost. (The Genze is $3699). It doesn't seem to be regulation, you don't have to pass a bunch of tests or crash them to ship one like with a car. Maybe the large number of bike part manufacturers and builders give it more sophisticated supply chain? I really don't know.

VBprogrammer 8y ago
I'm hoping I'm just a little bit ahead of the curve. Doing a bit of reading it seams Honda and Yamaha have electric motorcycles being released in some form or another this year. Hopefully they find a market for them and the competition will start to push prices down.
bjourne 8y ago
An e-bike with pedal assist requires you to pedal so you get at least some exercise out from it. E-mopeds are also much heaver than e-bikes and may not be allowed (depending on jurisdiction) on all bike paths. They are also locked at their 25 km/h top speed, while e-bikes can go faster if you pedal.
- morganw 8y ago
  > 25 km/h top speed In California, mopeds can go 30 MPH (48.3km/h). I think it's 25 or 30 in most US states. The GenZe has 4 horsepower which is the CA limit (used to be 2) but some states only specify displacement as 49cc or less. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=406 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.... Mopeds are also allowed in bike lanes in CA, though police & cyclists don't seem to know this. Moped laws around the US: https://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Moped_Laws:_United_States https://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Moped_Laws:_United_States edit: did some more research. US doesn't have the equivalent of a German Mofa (25km/h) only Mokick (45km/h) https://smartexpat.com/germany/how-to-guides/transport/driving/motorbikes-mopeds https://smartexpat.com/germany/how-to-guides/transport/drivi... Though the stand-up scooters in CA do happen to have a 15 MPH limit.

by joshe 8y ago

VBprogrammer 8y ago

I'm hoping I'm just a little bit ahead of the curve. Doing a bit of reading it seams Honda and Yamaha have electric motorcycles being released in some form or another this year. Hopefully they find a market for them and the competition will start to push prices down.

bjourne 8y ago

An e-bike with pedal assist requires you to pedal so you get at least some exercise out from it. E-mopeds are also much heaver than e-bikes and may not be allowed (depending on jurisdiction) on all bike paths. They are also locked at their 25 km/h top speed, while e-bikes can go faster if you pedal.

morganw 8y ago
> 25 km/h top speed In California, mopeds can go 30 MPH (48.3km/h). I think it's 25 or 30 in most US states. The GenZe has 4 horsepower which is the CA limit (used to be 2) but some states only specify displacement as 49cc or less. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=406 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.... Mopeds are also allowed in bike lanes in CA, though police & cyclists don't seem to know this. Moped laws around the US: https://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Moped_Laws:_United_States https://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Moped_Laws:_United_States edit: did some more research. US doesn't have the equivalent of a German Mofa (25km/h) only Mokick (45km/h) https://smartexpat.com/germany/how-to-guides/transport/driving/motorbikes-mopeds https://smartexpat.com/germany/how-to-guides/transport/drivi... Though the stand-up scooters in CA do happen to have a 15 MPH limit.