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As a daily bike commuter – I see the scooters in the bike lane all the time. I also think they go pretty fast and at the very least are small and nimble enough

As a daily bike commuter – I see the scooters in the bike lane all the time. I also think they go pretty fast and at the very least are small and nimble enough that I never feel like they're really in my way. I much prefer them to the docked bikes. People on docked bikes don't ride like other bike commuters, they are a nuisance and feel like more of a danger to other cyclists and traffic in general. Anyways, I look forward to seeing how this plays out.

sandworm101 8y ago
>>> People on docked bikes don't ride like other bike commuters, they are a nuisance and feel like more of a danger to other cyclists and traffic in general. A know annoyance to all car drivers: Tourists. Their RVs spoil every mountain highway. Their rental cars slow down every bridge. Their docker bikes slow down bike lanes. And their lackadaisical meandering on foot slows down airports. Anyone who is looking at the view should be legally obligated to get out of the way of anyone trying to get to work.
- freehunter 8y ago
  Sorry I'm trying to enjoy my vacation in the city that you're the sole owner and arbiter of. Next time I spend thousands of dollars to visit, I'll make sure not to enjoy anything or look at anything in case it accidentally inconveniences you. I understand you're a very important person with very important things to do.
  - naravara 8y ago
    You can meander, gawk, and enjoy things all you want, but it's not necessary to stop in the middle of the sidewalk or weave around unpredictably to do any of that. It's not taking "ownership" of a city, most of what he mentioned is just about avoiding being in the way when occupying a shared space. It's basic manners.
  - InitialLastName 8y ago
    Point taken, but you should probably familiarize yourself a little bit with the road patterns of places you visit. For example, the green lanes painted on the road in Manhattan are neither "cab hailing lanes" nor the "special pedestrian lanes" that (usually grumpy) tourists seem to think they are. -anyone frustrated by people with luggage walking in the middle of the road.
- codezero 8y ago
  My point of view certainly isn't that extreme. I prefer people on docked bikes over having more cars on the road. I just would also like to see them wearing helmets, being conscious of others on bikes and generally being better citizens. I realize this could apply to lots of interactions :)
Johnny555 8y ago
I've had the opposite experience -- the rental bikes are heavy and slow, but they generally go in a straight line and are easy to pass. Scooters tend to weave across the bike lane and need to be given a wide berth when passing (not sure if it's a balance issue, or the rider is trying to avoid hitting road imperfections with those tiny 4" wheels)
- codezero 8y ago
  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I assume this is a function of when/where we're on the road. I myself swerve once in a while because there are a few giant pits on 3rd in SOMA :)
- baq 8y ago
  > (not sure if it's a balance issue, or the rider is trying to avoid hitting road imperfections with those tiny 4" wheels) Yes. Source: was riding on a scooter to work for a couple of years. If wheels are made of plastic instead of rubber and air, you can feel every tooth filling on the smallest unevenness.
scrumbledober 8y ago
Also those docked bikes weigh somewhere on the order of five tonnes and even strong riders move slow up hills on them. I'm stuck behind them far more often than electric scooters.

sandworm101 8y ago

>>> People on docked bikes don't ride like other bike commuters, they are a nuisance and feel like more of a danger to other cyclists and traffic in general. A know annoyance to all car drivers: Tourists. Their RVs spoil every mountain highway. Their rental cars slow down every bridge. Their docker bikes slow down bike lanes. And their lackadaisical meandering on foot slows down airports. Anyone who is looking at the view should be legally obligated to get out of the way of anyone trying to get to work.

freehunter 8y ago
Sorry I'm trying to enjoy my vacation in the city that you're the sole owner and arbiter of. Next time I spend thousands of dollars to visit, I'll make sure not to enjoy anything or look at anything in case it accidentally inconveniences you. I understand you're a very important person with very important things to do.
- naravara 8y ago
  You can meander, gawk, and enjoy things all you want, but it's not necessary to stop in the middle of the sidewalk or weave around unpredictably to do any of that. It's not taking "ownership" of a city, most of what he mentioned is just about avoiding being in the way when occupying a shared space. It's basic manners.
- InitialLastName 8y ago
  Point taken, but you should probably familiarize yourself a little bit with the road patterns of places you visit. For example, the green lanes painted on the road in Manhattan are neither "cab hailing lanes" nor the "special pedestrian lanes" that (usually grumpy) tourists seem to think they are. -anyone frustrated by people with luggage walking in the middle of the road.
codezero 8y ago
My point of view certainly isn't that extreme. I prefer people on docked bikes over having more cars on the road. I just would also like to see them wearing helmets, being conscious of others on bikes and generally being better citizens. I realize this could apply to lots of interactions :)

Johnny555 8y ago

I've had the opposite experience -- the rental bikes are heavy and slow, but they generally go in a straight line and are easy to pass. Scooters tend to weave across the bike lane and need to be given a wide berth when passing (not sure if it's a balance issue, or the rider is trying to avoid hitting road imperfections with those tiny 4" wheels)

codezero 8y ago
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I assume this is a function of when/where we're on the road. I myself swerve once in a while because there are a few giant pits on 3rd in SOMA :)
baq 8y ago
> (not sure if it's a balance issue, or the rider is trying to avoid hitting road imperfections with those tiny 4" wheels) Yes. Source: was riding on a scooter to work for a couple of years. If wheels are made of plastic instead of rubber and air, you can feel every tooth filling on the smallest unevenness.

scrumbledober 8y ago

Also those docked bikes weigh somewhere on the order of five tonnes and even strong riders move slow up hills on them. I'm stuck behind them far more often than electric scooters.