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How could Facebook ever lose this case in a country where Equifax faced no punishment? Regardless of what you think about Facebook, DeepFace is seemingly mostly
by merrywhether 8y ago
How could Facebook ever lose this case in a country where Equifax faced no punishment? Regardless of what you think about Facebook, DeepFace is seemingly mostly theoretical harm whereas Equifax definitely provably harmed people’s privacy and then (initially) charged those same people to help them protect themselves (via credit freezes). Not saying I don’t want Facebook held to the law, just thought of the comparison.
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago> How could Facebook ever lose this case in a country where Equifax faced no punishment? The case hinges on a particularly strict Illinois biometric privacy law.
- faitswulff 8y agoThis is the same reason Google's Arts & Culture face-matching tool wasn't available in Illinois: http://abc7chicago.com/technology/why-googles-face-match-feature-doesnt-work-in-illinois/2959613/ http://abc7chicago.com/technology/why-googles-face-match-fea...
- toomuchtodo 8y agoAlso why Nest IQ (which uses biometric face detection) isn't available in Illinois.
- yojex 8y agoDoes anybody know if this affects the iPhone's Face ID in any way?
- toomuchtodo 8y agoIt supposedly does not, as the data is kept on the phone and Apple does not take possession of the data.
- Crespyl 8y agoMoving to Illinois sounds more appealing than ever.
- toomuchtodo 8y agoBesides the winters and pension underfunding, it’s a great place to live for a bit.
- mrleiter 8y agoBecause different laws apply.
- lozenge 8y agoHow about intent for a start? Facebook's feature broke the law by design (albeit perhaps unknowingly), while Equifax never meant for people's data to leak.
- pimmen 8y agoYes, there is a difference between being reckless (which should absolutely be punishable, too) and knowing what you're doing but thinking you're above the law.
- sametmax 8y agoEquifax has ties with the administration and the banking system, so maybe they had help.
- em-bell 8y agoWell said. What Equifax did was much much worse than Facebook's "alleged" privacy invasion. Losing the SSN's of over 100 million Americans must be a new record.
- totalrobe 8y agoTheoretical harm? It's only theoretical because we maybe haven't seen direct negative consequences. However, there are plenty of examples where actions without negative consequences can still be prosecuted. The analogy for this regarding physical altercations would be assault vs. battery. Getting punched in the face is "theoretical harm" until the fist connects with the nose. The connection of fist and face is battery. The swinging of the arm is assault (even if the fist doesn't connect). However, I think the point is moot as the tagging itself is an invasion of privacy. You may not see a problem but it's not difficult to imagine some. What if someone posts and tags me in a picture with revealing information and my stalker sees it and hunts me down? If I'm someone that has had a stalker, a boss that has no boundaries, or an unaccepting family, knowing this feature exists would cause anxiety. I remember thinking the tagging feature was incredibly creepy when it came out, but it seems to have become normalized in society.
- s73v3r_ 8y agoJust because one shitty company was able to weasel their way out of responsibility does not mean that we should allow all companies to do so.