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I wish it was that simple, but I never received a single notice of the migration or my need to do anything at all as a bug reporter. (Just ran a liberal grep o
by matttproud 8y ago
I wish it was that simple, but I never received a single notice of the migration or my need to do anything at all as a bug reporter. (Just ran a liberal grep on my inbox right now.)
The only notice I received was after-the-fact. Sorry.
Learning of GNOME'S cavalier attitude toward user reports and eventual product direction was exactly why I moved off the platform in the intervening years. I had high hopes when I was young and naive.
I realize GNOME is volunteer-based with a pillar of corporate backing from Red Hat and similar, but it strikes me as botched that if enough will existed to migrate to GitLab, an endeavor that requires serious engineering hours of research and planning and execution, that nobody could have said: let's query and build a list of unique email addresses from bug reporters and personally email them once with a quick letter, letting them know what they need to do. Compared to the actual migration, that is drops in a bathtub. Simple due diligence for user-facing goodwill.
I want to be sympathetic — really.
JWZ's CADT supposition has a lot of explanatory power here combined with the opportunity to "scrub a lot of bugs quickly".
- baud147258 8y agoLink for Jwz's cadt post https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html (edit: I didn't see it was already posted below)
- anowlcalledjosh 8y agoQuick reminder: JWZ despises HN, so you'll need to copy-paste that link in order to remove the referrer header.
- TheRealDunkirk 8y agoI'm not saying the bridge has been repaired, but clicking that link doesn't seem to redirect to... THAT... image any more.
- fao_ 8y agoFYI - For me it auto-redirects to: https://imgur.com/32R3qLv https://imgur.com/32R3qLv
- baud147258 8y agoI tested the link, but I didn't get the redirect. I would have added the warning if it happened to me.
- matthberg 8y agoThis could be fixed with rel="noreferrer noopener" added to the links, would that be a beneficial addition to HN?
- crysin 8y agoIs there a blog post or something that kind of gives an overview on why JWZ hates HN? I'm really curious to learn about the animosity.
- workinthehead 8y agoBug reporters who can't even be arsed to follow up or check in on their reports aren't worth nearly as much as you seem to think they are.
- freehunter 8y agoTrue, but on the other hand bugs can go unfixed for years, with developers ignoring them or prioritizing them super ultra low. I know I've opened enough bug reports over the years that I can't go back and check on all of them, but I'm still hoping they'll get fixed some day. If it's closed for "inactivity" while I'm actively waiting for a response from the developer, that's going to annoy me.
- eptcyka 8y agoWhat exactly do you mean by "actively waiting"? Is your act of waiting actively in any way perceivable to anyone but yourself?
- freehunter 8y agoAs opposed to having forgotten about it. As in, if the developer responded, Github would send me an email and I would jump back into the conversation. As in I can't do anything more until the developer responds, but once they do I'm ready to help. There's a quick and easy way to tell if someone is actively waiting: respond to them.
- boomlinde 8y agoThe reports may still be relevant. If the problem is easily reproducible or even just well described, a bug report should be useful independent of the activity or further engagement of the reporter.
- detaro 8y agoWhy would you "check in" in the presence of e-mail notifications of new developments? Most projects also don't like it if you post "bug still exists" every few months.