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> Fair enough - this is essentially my own question above - what pressure can be applied by Russia to Apple to prevent App Store UK getting updates? They can f

> Fair enough - this is essentially my own question above - what pressure can be applied by Russia to Apple to prevent App Store UK getting updates? They can fine the company, ban import of Apple products into the country, block access to App Store, etc. Yes, that same agency. It doesn't even matter which regional section of App Store Telegram would use to publish app - users in need can switch between them and censorship agency can't see which part of App Store you are connecting to. So Russian censorship agency's end goal should be to remove Telegram from all regional sections of App Store and use whatever legal or not-so-legal excuses to do so. Agency in question (Роскомнадзор) is notorious for their bullshit excuses to ban imports of food from Ukraine during all the trade wars even before all European food was legally banned for import.

vbezhenar 8y ago
Can you really switch between stores? I think you would need UK credit card for that.
- Muromec 8y ago
  You can skip adding payment method: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204034 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204034
xvilka 8y ago
It is not the same agency - food bans were issued by Роспотребнадзор.
lifeisstillgood 8y ago
Let me rephrase- yes they can impose a fine, harass employees, ban imports of iphones, but what can they do that will work - ie force apple to ban a well known app from the app store innsuch a blatant fashion. Apple would be insane to comply with these demands, because it just opens the door for every other regieme to do the same. So ... is Apple stopping Telegram from sending the updates? Are they doing it because of Russia pressure? or is there more?
- Muromec 8y ago
  >Apple would be insane to comply with these demands, because it just opens the door for every other regieme to do the same. But they already did in China, right?
  - lifeisstillgood 8y ago
    This it seems is something i missed - they banned VPN apps?
    - detaro 8y ago
      Yes: http://www.siliconbeat.com/2017/11/22/apple-can-promote-freedom-expression-china-block-vpn-apps/ http://www.siliconbeat.com/2017/11/22/apple-can-promote-free...
- v_lisivka 8y ago
  Russia bent Google in no time to show Crime as Russian territory on Google Maps. Apple is stronger, but not so much.

vbezhenar 8y ago

Can you really switch between stores? I think you would need UK credit card for that.

Muromec 8y ago
You can skip adding payment method: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204034 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204034

xvilka 8y ago

It is not the same agency - food bans were issued by Роспотребнадзор.

lifeisstillgood 8y ago

Let me rephrase- yes they can impose a fine, harass employees, ban imports of iphones, but what can they do that will work - ie force apple to ban a well known app from the app store innsuch a blatant fashion. Apple would be insane to comply with these demands, because it just opens the door for every other regieme to do the same. So ... is Apple stopping Telegram from sending the updates? Are they doing it because of Russia pressure? or is there more?

Muromec 8y ago
>Apple would be insane to comply with these demands, because it just opens the door for every other regieme to do the same. But they already did in China, right?
- lifeisstillgood 8y ago
  This it seems is something i missed - they banned VPN apps?
  - detaro 8y ago
    Yes: http://www.siliconbeat.com/2017/11/22/apple-can-promote-freedom-expression-china-block-vpn-apps/ http://www.siliconbeat.com/2017/11/22/apple-can-promote-free...
v_lisivka 8y ago
Russia bent Google in no time to show Crime as Russian territory on Google Maps. Apple is stronger, but not so much.