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I think the key to vegan food growth is making vegan food so delicious and cheap that people start deciding to go get dinner at By Chloe instead of Five Guys (h

I think the key to vegan food growth is making vegan food so delicious and cheap that people start deciding to go get dinner at By Chloe instead of Five Guys (https://www.eater.com/2018/4/19/17243780/by-chloe-vegan-chain-guac-burger https://www.eater.com/2018/4/19/17243780/by-chloe-vegan-chai...). I wonder how much vegan restaurants can undercut omni restaurants due to the lower costs of vegetables compared to meats. Source: anecdata from an omnivore that recently decided to try vegan food and found that there are actually some pretty delicious deals to be found. If I could get a really great vegan meal for $6-8 rather than the $9-13 I normally pay in NYC I would probably start replacing a lot of my eating out with it.

blacksmith_tb 8y ago
I would think the key would be removing the subsidies to the livestock industry. If a burger at Five Guys cost $20, there'd be a lot more vegans...
- hunter23 8y ago
  The subsidies wouldn't create more vegans in my view but it would reduce overall meat consumption. If you look at countries with higher meat costs (relative to income) you see that most have lower per capita meat consumption but they don't necessarily have higher incidence of vegans.
- trevyn 8y ago
  It wouldn’t cost $20.
pm90 8y ago
It should very much be possible. Anecdotally, India has huge number of people who don't eat meat and the vegetarian food is pretty delicious. But perhaps its just because I grew up eating that food. The problem is probably that innovation in non-meat based food hasn't happened very much in the US. But I do see that changing with Amy's kitchen and all the vegan/veggie restaurants that are springing up. My personal feeling is that lab grown meat and meat substitutes are probably the best way to get around this rather than moralizing about it, which never works. Disclaimer: I'm definitely a meat lover, but do try to eat less meat whenever I can.
archagon 8y ago
I recently tried the Beyond Burger at Veggie Grill and was downright shocked by how good it tasted. More of that and people might be a lot happier to go vegan!

blacksmith_tb 8y ago

I would think the key would be removing the subsidies to the livestock industry. If a burger at Five Guys cost $20, there'd be a lot more vegans...

hunter23 8y ago
The subsidies wouldn't create more vegans in my view but it would reduce overall meat consumption. If you look at countries with higher meat costs (relative to income) you see that most have lower per capita meat consumption but they don't necessarily have higher incidence of vegans.
trevyn 8y ago
It wouldn’t cost $20.

pm90 8y ago

It should very much be possible. Anecdotally, India has huge number of people who don't eat meat and the vegetarian food is pretty delicious. But perhaps its just because I grew up eating that food. The problem is probably that innovation in non-meat based food hasn't happened very much in the US. But I do see that changing with Amy's kitchen and all the vegan/veggie restaurants that are springing up. My personal feeling is that lab grown meat and meat substitutes are probably the best way to get around this rather than moralizing about it, which never works. Disclaimer: I'm definitely a meat lover, but do try to eat less meat whenever I can.

archagon 8y ago

I recently tried the Beyond Burger at Veggie Grill and was downright shocked by how good it tasted. More of that and people might be a lot happier to go vegan!