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Boy, this seems like an exceptionally poor choice of project name - in the same exact industry, web development, there is already years of use of "WAMP" to mean
by sethhochberg 8y ago
Boy, this seems like an exceptionally poor choice of project name - in the same exact industry, web development, there is already years of use of "WAMP" to mean "Windows Apache MySQL PHP". WAMP / LAMP / MAMP / etc are ubiquitous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WampServer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WampServer
You know the difference, and I know the difference, but a whole lot of newbie developers who are trying to learn about websockets and while playing around on their Windows dev box could end up pretty confused.
- liveoneggs 8y ago"Crossbar.io", "WAMP" and the WAMP - The Web Application Messaging Protocol logo are trademarks of Crossbar.io Technologies GmbH. All rights reserved.
- TomMarius 8y agoWe're not talking about names of products. WAMP is a common acronym used in the industry, not a name of a product.
- liveoneggs 8y agoyes I know it well. That is why the quote on the bottom of https://wamp-proto.org/ https://wamp-proto.org/ was amusing to me "WAMP™" etc
- gm-conspiracy 8y agohttps://www.trademarkia.com/wamp-86412095.html https://www.trademarkia.com/wamp-86412095.html
- sametmax 8y agoI kept telling Tobias (the head of Tavendo, the company behind WAMP) to change the name years ago but he said he already invested too much in it (registration at IANA, tutorial, the fact this is actually WAMP 2, so there was a WAMP 1...). Basically, yep, it's bad, but this ship has sailed.
- giancarlostoro 8y agoI hate to say it but first that sounds highly too stubborn that I wanna say it sounds incompetent. Secondly there's still room to rename and if they want it to go anywhere sooner is bettee than later. Call is Weasel for all anyone cares (yeah I know IceWeasel... But still better than flat out WAMP). The worse part is some people might completely dislike WAMP altogether given some Unix only devs out there and might never see this due to poor naming.
- sametmax 8y agoGood technical people are rarely good at communication. Tobias is a very good, German, technician.
- Longhanks 8y agoIn my experience, really good technical people excel in communication, because that's part of how they became so good. There's a difference between being talented and being an outstanding technician.
- giancarlostoro 8y agoThis is true, and I believe sometimes developers should yield certain decisions to somebody else, or be willing to take useful advise (and act upon it after really considering it), you could really go from very good to exceptional if you can get over the hump of "but I already named it a thing", or whatever mental roadblock. As well as you don't have to change your code (reasonable reason not to 'change names'), it can be called 'WAMP' under the hood, but market it as something else, it is the 'WAMP' core if anything, but also clarify that it's nothing to do with Windows, Apache, MySQL or PHP (unless it's related to any of those). At this point if he called it the 'WAM Protocol' it might be a little better.
- ofrzeta 8y agoThat didn't stop them from renaming the Company from Tavendo to Crossbar.io, though, it seems. As they are advertising the protocol as "open Web Application Messaging Protocol" they might as well abbreviate it OWAMP. Just sayin'...
- bigtunacan 8y agoI came here to say the same thing. I have absolutely no idea why such a name would be chosen. The "WAMP" acronym to mean "Windows Apache MySQL PHP" has existed long before this product. Then add to that a quick Google search for WAMP and you will see all of the SEO brings back WAMP server offerings. This product doesn't even make second page results, and let's be honest most people don't go past the first page of Google results.
- porsager 8y agoThere's also some reasoning on their page: https://wamp-proto.org/faq/index.html#naming https://wamp-proto.org/faq/index.html#naming
- Raphmedia 8y agoWoah, this page makes it even worst. "And here is what we recommend for users: [...] Use the hashtag/keyword "wampws" when search on Web platform like Twitter or StackOverflow" ... So why not call it WAMPWS?
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- bigpoppa 8y agoWisconsin Association of Meat Processors
- eurticket 8y agoWhy do people choose the same name for already known companies/projects to begin with?
- overcast 8y agoThis goes for any new project name. Does anyone simply just Google first? If there are a hundred thousand results, choose a new name.