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I despise the removal of the 3.5 mm jack to this day... and I still do not get why Apple removed it. What exactly did it get in the way of and what was made ava

by martin1975 8y ago

I despise the removal of the 3.5 mm jack to this day... and I still do not get why Apple removed it. What exactly did it get in the way of and what was made available by its removal? Worst move ever.

modzu 8y ago
to sell dongles. err, i mean, cuz its the future!
- ozim 8y ago
  Even better sell bluetooth earphones. I have to say I am quite happy with airpods when doing dishes or running. While I am working I still like cable earphones. But all time I see people with wireless ones and it is future. I still remember buying earphones for my walkman, cheap ones lasted couple weeks because cables broke so often. Don't even get me started on untangling cables after taking those out of pocket. Bluetooth earphones are like magic for me, I don't need hover board I know I live in the future. How do they even fit battery for 3 hours, bluetooth module, antena, charging module (it also is saying how much juice each earphone has), audio playback module.
  - modzu 8y ago
    no argument that wireless is great. but why exclusively wireless? we just want the jack as a backup / for those situations when we're using perfectly good older devices its like taking away your charger because you have a battery
protomyth 8y ago
I found it very odd given Apple's commitment to accessibility and the existence of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_ATM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_ATM
JTbane 8y ago
Apple owns Beats Electronics, whose higher-cost headphones are primarily wireless.
Isamu 8y ago
I have a harder time with the macbook going to all usbc connectors. Sorry, I don't have a usb-c to every-damn-thing-in-the-world connector, and yet I have to get useful work done. On the phone I can see the motivation. They are down to one connector port, but really they'd like to get to zero ports. And zero physical buttons if possible. Just a seamless wafer-thin card.
kinsomo 8y ago
> I despise the removal of the 3.5 mm jack to this day... and I still do not get why Apple removed it. What exactly did it get in the way of and what was made available by its removal? Worst move ever. Johnny Ive took "worse is better" too literally.
ksk 8y ago
>What exactly did it get in the way of and what was made available by its removal? They should have sealed the entire phone by moving to wireless charging. Waterproof unibody design would have been an interesting innovation. But instead we lost the jack and now they do stupid stuff like the notch. Also, I don't get the idea of making a personal computing device that is going to get handled a lot and bumped around so thin and fragile. The first thing people do is put a ugly case on their phone and buy a battery pack since it barely has enough charge for a days worth of use.
hbosch 8y ago
I think it's obvious Apple just sees their ideal customer to be totally wireless. AirPods, Apple Watch, iPhone X. It's hard to argue against the convenience of this kind of system, but it's a very narrow funnel that naturally angers anyone who falls outside of it.
tunesmith 8y ago
better water resistance? I've read that the 3.5 mm jack was the previous limiting factor, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.
- Yetanfou 8y ago
  Highly inaccurate given the number of waterproof devices with headphone jacks. $150 'airpods' should give a hint as to why they chose to remove the audio jack.

I despise the removal of the 3.5 mm jack to this day... and I still do not get why Apple removed it. What exactly did it get in the way of and what was made available by its removal? Worst move ever.

modzu 8y ago

to sell dongles. err, i mean, cuz its the future!

ozim 8y ago
Even better sell bluetooth earphones. I have to say I am quite happy with airpods when doing dishes or running. While I am working I still like cable earphones. But all time I see people with wireless ones and it is future. I still remember buying earphones for my walkman, cheap ones lasted couple weeks because cables broke so often. Don't even get me started on untangling cables after taking those out of pocket. Bluetooth earphones are like magic for me, I don't need hover board I know I live in the future. How do they even fit battery for 3 hours, bluetooth module, antena, charging module (it also is saying how much juice each earphone has), audio playback module.
- modzu 8y ago
  no argument that wireless is great. but why exclusively wireless? we just want the jack as a backup / for those situations when we're using perfectly good older devices its like taking away your charger because you have a battery

protomyth 8y ago

I found it very odd given Apple's commitment to accessibility and the existence of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_ATM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_ATM

JTbane 8y ago

Apple owns Beats Electronics, whose higher-cost headphones are primarily wireless.

Isamu 8y ago

I have a harder time with the macbook going to all usbc connectors. Sorry, I don't have a usb-c to every-damn-thing-in-the-world connector, and yet I have to get useful work done. On the phone I can see the motivation. They are down to one connector port, but really they'd like to get to zero ports. And zero physical buttons if possible. Just a seamless wafer-thin card.

kinsomo 8y ago

> I despise the removal of the 3.5 mm jack to this day... and I still do not get why Apple removed it. What exactly did it get in the way of and what was made available by its removal? Worst move ever. Johnny Ive took "worse is better" too literally.

ksk 8y ago

>What exactly did it get in the way of and what was made available by its removal? They should have sealed the entire phone by moving to wireless charging. Waterproof unibody design would have been an interesting innovation. But instead we lost the jack and now they do stupid stuff like the notch. Also, I don't get the idea of making a personal computing device that is going to get handled a lot and bumped around so thin and fragile. The first thing people do is put a ugly case on their phone and buy a battery pack since it barely has enough charge for a days worth of use.

hbosch 8y ago

I think it's obvious Apple just sees their ideal customer to be totally wireless. AirPods, Apple Watch, iPhone X. It's hard to argue against the convenience of this kind of system, but it's a very narrow funnel that naturally angers anyone who falls outside of it.

tunesmith 8y ago

better water resistance? I've read that the 3.5 mm jack was the previous limiting factor, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

Yetanfou 8y ago
Highly inaccurate given the number of waterproof devices with headphone jacks. $150 'airpods' should give a hint as to why they chose to remove the audio jack.