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1) Well, that depends what you want to call "next version". If you called "Web 2.0" next version, then you can call the Semantic Web next version. 2) He was ob

by aupajo 19y ago

1) Well, that depends what you want to call "next version". If you called "Web 2.0" next version, then you can call the Semantic Web next version. 2) He was obviously talking about the direction of the technology, not implying that "everything" as it is now is going to become semantic. I think that was pretty clear. 3) Same line here. "Standards" are never going to fully be implemented, it doesn't mean that they mean nothing. Semantic web is just one step up. Most standards-based websites are designed semantically anyway, plus from a back-end perspective, REST is on the rise. Yahoo, Flickr, Google, Apple, Microsoft and Technorati are using microformats already. They're all pushing the technology, they have plans as to how they want to use them. It's up to the developers to come up with solutions as to how to make them easier for the general public to use.

henning 19y ago
1) How can you "call" "Web 2.0" a "next version"? Did you just seriously refer to Web 2.0 as a legitimate object/trend? 2) What direction? 3) I code for a living and it's news to me that Yahoo et al. use microformats in some capacity. The point is that the marketing isn't there.
- aupajo 19y ago
  1) Personally, I don't, nor do I count either it or "Semantic web" as tangible, exact things. I just meant to point out that you can use "next version" to anecdotally refer to a shift in trend, which was how it was used in this case. 2) That which the bigger companies are pushing, which ultimately relates to a not insubstantial section of the web to follow suit. 3) You're absolutely right that microformats haven't been marketed yet. If it's news to you, have an exploration around the microformats wiki. You'd be surprised who's doing what. If you're interested in some examples of the companies I mentioned: - Yahoo uses hCalendar, hCard, hReview on almost all business listings, search results, events, and reviews. - Flickr supports XFN and hCard on all profile pages, and use geo on their photos with geo tagged photos. - Google use microformats to enhance their search results. I believe that XFN in particular plays a part in determining link relevance and they certainly use rel-nofollow. Across various Google products you will find hCards, XFN, rel-license and so on. - Apple's .Mac webmail supports hCard. - Microsoft are supposedly doing some big things with IE8 and microformats. They already use hCalendar in their WindowsLiveWriter. - Technorati started a lot of the microformats. Basically no part of their site isn't covered with examples of them. They have a variety of services that you can use to do clever things with the microformats you use (such as their hCard to vCard converter - add a link to your page which when clicked parses the hCard and turns it into a vCard for easy addition to your address book). Aside from these, you can add Twitter, Digg, Dreamweaver, Drupal, Facebook, Last.fm, Moveable Type, Pownce and Wordpress to the list of microformat users.

by aupajo 19y ago

henning 19y ago

1) How can you "call" "Web 2.0" a "next version"? Did you just seriously refer to Web 2.0 as a legitimate object/trend? 2) What direction? 3) I code for a living and it's news to me that Yahoo et al. use microformats in some capacity. The point is that the marketing isn't there.

aupajo 19y ago
1) Personally, I don't, nor do I count either it or "Semantic web" as tangible, exact things. I just meant to point out that you can use "next version" to anecdotally refer to a shift in trend, which was how it was used in this case. 2) That which the bigger companies are pushing, which ultimately relates to a not insubstantial section of the web to follow suit. 3) You're absolutely right that microformats haven't been marketed yet. If it's news to you, have an exploration around the microformats wiki. You'd be surprised who's doing what. If you're interested in some examples of the companies I mentioned: - Yahoo uses hCalendar, hCard, hReview on almost all business listings, search results, events, and reviews. - Flickr supports XFN and hCard on all profile pages, and use geo on their photos with geo tagged photos. - Google use microformats to enhance their search results. I believe that XFN in particular plays a part in determining link relevance and they certainly use rel-nofollow. Across various Google products you will find hCards, XFN, rel-license and so on. - Apple's .Mac webmail supports hCard. - Microsoft are supposedly doing some big things with IE8 and microformats. They already use hCalendar in their WindowsLiveWriter. - Technorati started a lot of the microformats. Basically no part of their site isn't covered with examples of them. They have a variety of services that you can use to do clever things with the microformats you use (such as their hCard to vCard converter - add a link to your page which when clicked parses the hCard and turns it into a vCard for easy addition to your address book). Aside from these, you can add Twitter, Digg, Dreamweaver, Drupal, Facebook, Last.fm, Moveable Type, Pownce and Wordpress to the list of microformat users.