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From all the articles I have read about this Telegram seems to offer no evidence to supports its case. Further more it claims its only iOS, and not macOS. And I
by laveur 8y ago
From all the articles I have read about this Telegram seems to offer no evidence to supports its case. Further more it claims its only iOS, and not macOS. And I personally have gotten at least several updates for at least the mac version over the past month.
- laveur 8y agoIF they really are not letting them update I would at least expect a rejection letter from Apple as evidence.
- erikb 8y agoWhy? If they make it so obvious of course there will be outrage. What everybody with some brains would actually do is slow down the approval process and really look for all kinds of unimportant small details that the update doesn't fulfill "yet".
- JumpCrisscross 8y agoSo why is Signal updating?
- lern_too_spel 8y agoRussia hasn't banned Signal, has it?
- skorbenko 8y agoRussia has not banned Signal yet. A possible reason may be that a) Telegram is still way more popular b) Telegram was (and still is) a major networking service for the Russian opposition
- derefr 8y agoBecause the People of Interest to Russia happen to use Telegram, not Signal.
- JumpCrisscross 8y agoWhy is it easier to assume Russia forced Apple to block Telegram worldwide, a privilege Apple haven't even given China, than that there is another reason for the delay?
- NullPrefix 8y agoSignal is not that popular.
- djrogers 8y agoWhy? That still makes no sense - banning updates globally is not even what Russia wants, let alone a reasonable goal.
- erikb 8y agoYou don't have to be strongly against something just because it's not as important to you. Telegram is a chat that has a huge number of security aware users. If they can't update, no matter the reason, the users need to go somewhere else. That doesn't necessarily mean that they would switch from Apple to Android, though. So the price for Apple might be small. So for Apple that is either a good way to get rid of an unwanted app, or a way to do a favor for a competitor, or a way to put pressure on Telegram developers to do something that the devs haven't done yet for some reason (e.g. give access to user data). Now I'm not saying that Apple does anything like that. It couldn't be proven by simple people like us anyways. I'm just providing possible explanations for what's maybe going on and why it might happen. It is for instance just as possible that Telegram is not updating themselves, because they want to achieve some kind of hidden agenda, e.g. in a subgroup of people they care about users would very much be willing to switch phones just to stay with their secure chat app and they might have a better deal with Google than they have with Apple. Nothing can be said for sure without insider information.
- Bud 8y agoI keep seeing a lot of iffy reporting on this. Has anyone actually run this down and done a solid article on it?
- Semirhage 8y agoRead the comments here, and it seems like Telegram is being pretty shrewd from PR perspective, since everyone is willing to blame Russia and Apple. Admittedly Russia is a deservedly easy target, and Apple has some vocal critics. If enough people want to believe the accusation, and are willing to at face value (and that seems to be the case here at least) then it’s already “mission accomplished” for Telegram.
- askvictor 8y agoOn a Mac you have the option of downloading and installing the app directly from the Internet rather than from the app store. On iOS you don't, so there is a clear difference.