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Disney only cares about the law when it profits them. Remember that they rose to fame by using stories that were in the public domain and exempt from copyright,

Disney only cares about the law when it profits them. Remember that they rose to fame by using stories that were in the public domain and exempt from copyright, then lobbied to extend their own copyright indefinitely.

superflyguy 8y ago
They also used Stravinsky's music and didn't pay him.
- wristmittens 8y ago
  Sources? Copyright issues back then were a bit tricky. 28 years with mandatory registration, and so Stravinsky's Rite Of Spring (1913) is around the line of 27 years to Disney's Fantasia (1940), and if Stravinsky didn't register it, then the only organization they'd have to pay is the Philadelphia Orchestra, depending on when it was recorded... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law_of_th... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/soundtrack?ref_=tt_trv_snd https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/soundtrack?ref_=tt_trv_...
  - fzzzy 8y ago
    What does that have to do with the simple statement of fact “they didn’t pay him”? Whether they were required to or not doesn’t matter at all. They didn’t pay him. They could have payed him even if they were not required to by law.
    - SamReidHughes 8y ago
      It has to do with the relevance of that fact.
chimeracoder 8y ago
> Remember that they rose to fame by using stories that were in the public domain and exempt from copyright, then lobbied to extend their own copyright indefinitely. And now try to claim exclusive rights over those same stories, no less.
kbutler 8y ago
Nothing you've said implies Disney violated any laws, however much I disagree with their actions. Small companies innovate. Large companies litigate. Mega companies legislate.
- dvdhnt 8y ago
  > Nothing you've said implies Disney violated any laws, however much I disagree with their actions. This is a problem with the US' letter of the law legal system. We make excuses and justify actions because they aren't explicitly listed as illegal, even though we all know they're in bad faith.
  - kbutler 8y ago
    If you mean that judges or law enforcement should be able to punish actions that are not against the law, then I disagree wholeheartedly.

superflyguy 8y ago

They also used Stravinsky's music and didn't pay him.

wristmittens 8y ago
Sources? Copyright issues back then were a bit tricky. 28 years with mandatory registration, and so Stravinsky's Rite Of Spring (1913) is around the line of 27 years to Disney's Fantasia (1940), and if Stravinsky didn't register it, then the only organization they'd have to pay is the Philadelphia Orchestra, depending on when it was recorded... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law_of_th... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/soundtrack?ref_=tt_trv_snd https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/soundtrack?ref_=tt_trv_...
- fzzzy 8y ago
  What does that have to do with the simple statement of fact “they didn’t pay him”? Whether they were required to or not doesn’t matter at all. They didn’t pay him. They could have payed him even if they were not required to by law.
  - SamReidHughes 8y ago
    It has to do with the relevance of that fact.

chimeracoder 8y ago

> Remember that they rose to fame by using stories that were in the public domain and exempt from copyright, then lobbied to extend their own copyright indefinitely. And now try to claim exclusive rights over those same stories, no less.

kbutler 8y ago

Nothing you've said implies Disney violated any laws, however much I disagree with their actions. Small companies innovate. Large companies litigate. Mega companies legislate.

dvdhnt 8y ago
> Nothing you've said implies Disney violated any laws, however much I disagree with their actions. This is a problem with the US' letter of the law legal system. We make excuses and justify actions because they aren't explicitly listed as illegal, even though we all know they're in bad faith.
- kbutler 8y ago
  If you mean that judges or law enforcement should be able to punish actions that are not against the law, then I disagree wholeheartedly.