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Which is why it is so much more cost effective to spend your time marketing to those managers than writing code to market to the developers.
by freshhawk 8y ago
Which is why it is so much more cost effective to spend your time marketing to those managers than writing code to market to the developers.
- zeth___ 8y agoIt doesn't help that most developers are language fanboys who have no idea what actual programming means.
- randrose 8y agoI ask this in the most serious of ways, could you explain what actual programming is?
- zeth___ 8y agoThe minimum ability someone needs to have for me to consider them a programmer is the being able to write a parser using yacc or something equivalent. Anything a person with that ability does is programming because they know enough to realise when switching to putting legos together it more efficient.
- paublyrne 8y agoIf not programmers, what are these people who spend their days programming, but who may not necessarily have ever written a parser using yacc because none of the jobs they've ever had have required that?
- always_good 8y agoDepends how superior you want to make yourself feel.
- zeth___ 8y agoStamp collectors.
- bartread 8y agoHa! I'm not sure how serious this comment is in terms of how you choose to spend your time at work, but a person with that attitude isn't going to last long working for me. I expect them to deliver. I'm not a tyrant, and I avoid setting hard deadlines as much as reasonably possible, but I do expect concrete evidence of output that delivers customer and/or business value. Still, in many organisations I think you're right. So much energy is expended on marketing to/currying favour with managers that not much is actually delivered. It's how you end up with 100+ people taking more than 6 months to deliver two pages that allow customers to register for a service (names omitted to protect the guilty).
- nostrademons 8y agoSomeone with that attitude isn't going to last long working for you anyway: as soon as they're hired, they'll put your company on their resume, blog about everything they've learned, trump up their first project, and start looking for their next gig, usually getting a big pay increase in the process.