Fair enough, I agree that avoiding the baggage of Dilbertesque (great word!) corporations was key. My point was just that all the methods except agile had expl

Fair enough, I agree that avoiding the baggage of Dilbertesque (great word!) corporations was key. My point was just that all the methods except agile had explicit technical requirements. XP required TDD and pair programming which was incredibly extreme at the time (and still is fairly out there). These were people meeting up at OOPSLA. They were programmers' programmers. I absolutely think craft and technical quality was important to them. I think it was so intrinsically important that they didn't express it clearly in the manifesto. But I could be wrong; I wasn't there!