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>I'm not sure what changed in the incentive structure for this to happen, and I would like to find out. People started getting paid more for doing this because
by zeth___ 8y ago
>I'm not sure what changed in the incentive structure for this to happen, and I would like to find out.
People started getting paid more for doing this because managers have no idea what programming actually is.
- freshhawk 8y agoWhich is why it is so much more cost effective to spend your time marketing to those managers than writing code to market to the developers.
- zeth___ 8y agoIt doesn't help that most developers are language fanboys who have no idea what actual programming means.
- randrose 8y agoI ask this in the most serious of ways, could you explain what actual programming is?
- zeth___ 8y agoThe minimum ability someone needs to have for me to consider them a programmer is the being able to write a parser using yacc or something equivalent. Anything a person with that ability does is programming because they know enough to realise when switching to putting legos together it more efficient.
- paublyrne 8y agoIf not programmers, what are these people who spend their days programming, but who may not necessarily have ever written a parser using yacc because none of the jobs they've ever had have required that?
- always_good 8y agoDepends how superior you want to make yourself feel.
- zeth___ 8y agoStamp collectors.
- bartread 8y agoHa! I'm not sure how serious this comment is in terms of how you choose to spend your time at work, but a person with that attitude isn't going to last long working for me. I expect them to deliver. I'm not a tyrant, and I avoid setting hard deadlines as much as reasonably possible, but I do expect concrete evidence of output that delivers customer and/or business value. Still, in many organisations I think you're right. So much energy is expended on marketing to/currying favour with managers that not much is actually delivered. It's how you end up with 100+ people taking more than 6 months to deliver two pages that allow customers to register for a service (names omitted to protect the guilty).
- nostrademons 8y agoSomeone with that attitude isn't going to last long working for you anyway: as soon as they're hired, they'll put your company on their resume, blog about everything they've learned, trump up their first project, and start looking for their next gig, usually getting a big pay increase in the process.