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Calling out Vue.js as a possible solution is hilarious. Selling a trending technology as a silver bullet is exactly the problem he complains about in the articl

Calling out Vue.js as a possible solution is hilarious. Selling a trending technology as a silver bullet is exactly the problem he complains about in the article. Comparing the development methodology of Facebook - the company behind React - and this mindset is illuminating. Facebook famously rewrote PHP and added extensions like XHP rather than start their codebase from scratch. React follows a similar philosphy. It can be incrementally introduced into a codebase without radical rewrites. These lessons are largely ignored in the open source community, where everyone will gladly tell you how your tech is all wrong. This is actually really easy to avoid. Just focus on solving the problems you have and only adopt technology that is relevant to you.

_bxg1 8y ago
In my experience, Vue is much easier to integrate gradually than React. You can't knock it just because it's relatively "trendy". Do your research.
- oulu2006 8y ago
  That's been our experience as well. I much prefer the more holistic approach to development that Vue.js provides over React. And we did spend a year working with React, so it's not just something we did off the cuff.
- jrs95 8y ago
  It's also much easier to adopt if you have a lot of people who aren't familiar with React or even SPAs in general. Templates feel more familiar to them than JSX. And if you're building something complex enough to need it, Vuex is a hell of a lot simpler to learn than Redux. In general, you don't have to know anything about functional programming to use Vue and it's core libraries, and that can be pretty nice if your team isn't familiar with it.
k__ 8y ago
Yes, I still don't get th Vue hype.
- ggregoire 8y ago
  Angular 1 developers going back to something similar (my 2 cents).
  - tracker1 8y ago
    I will say that Vue feels like an evolution like a cousin to Angular 1, without trying to do so much in the box. I still prefer React, but can see the appeal. Similarly, I can see the appeal of WebComponents.
  - conradfr 8y ago
    As someone who liked Angular1 and like React but can't keep up with the ecosystem, it's kind of the good middle ground.
  - Too 8y ago
    I think the appeal of Vue is that it's "Angular done correct" and "Angular without the bloat you never use". The core concept of Angular was never bad, it's just that it had tons of pitfalls and bugs and it wanted to be everything at the same time, not just the view-layer.
augbog 8y ago
To be fair, he said he was interested in it and not necessarily it was a solution. Still though, he does make it sound like "Oh hey there are all these problems... but this one, the newest of em all, seems to be interesting" lol

_bxg1 8y ago

In my experience, Vue is much easier to integrate gradually than React. You can't knock it just because it's relatively "trendy". Do your research.

oulu2006 8y ago
That's been our experience as well. I much prefer the more holistic approach to development that Vue.js provides over React. And we did spend a year working with React, so it's not just something we did off the cuff.
jrs95 8y ago
It's also much easier to adopt if you have a lot of people who aren't familiar with React or even SPAs in general. Templates feel more familiar to them than JSX. And if you're building something complex enough to need it, Vuex is a hell of a lot simpler to learn than Redux. In general, you don't have to know anything about functional programming to use Vue and it's core libraries, and that can be pretty nice if your team isn't familiar with it.

k__ 8y ago

Yes, I still don't get th Vue hype.

ggregoire 8y ago
Angular 1 developers going back to something similar (my 2 cents).
- tracker1 8y ago
  I will say that Vue feels like an evolution like a cousin to Angular 1, without trying to do so much in the box. I still prefer React, but can see the appeal. Similarly, I can see the appeal of WebComponents.
- conradfr 8y ago
  As someone who liked Angular1 and like React but can't keep up with the ecosystem, it's kind of the good middle ground.
- Too 8y ago
  I think the appeal of Vue is that it's "Angular done correct" and "Angular without the bloat you never use". The core concept of Angular was never bad, it's just that it had tons of pitfalls and bugs and it wanted to be everything at the same time, not just the view-layer.

augbog 8y ago

To be fair, he said he was interested in it and not necessarily it was a solution. Still though, he does make it sound like "Oh hey there are all these problems... but this one, the newest of em all, seems to be interesting" lol