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This is an interesting observation. In a podcast [0], Mark Zuckerberg states that his vision behind Facebook has always been to connect people. To make them par

This is an interesting observation. In a podcast [0], Mark Zuckerberg states that his vision behind Facebook has always been to connect people. To make them part of a group as he stresses that every individual has a need for that at some point in life. He stresses that he wants to make this possible even for those with rare conditions that would require a group spread throughout the world. So enable them as they would not be able normally as their neighborhood would simply not have the correct prerequisites to form that group (i.e members). Your statement that reddit is better at this than Facebook would be in line with Reddit passing Facebook if indeed the purpose of both sites is as described by you and Mark Zuckerberg. [0] http://freakonomics.com/podcast/mark-zuckerberg/ http://freakonomics.com/podcast/mark-zuckerberg/

yurishimo 8y ago
Personally, I have a hard time believing that Zuckerberg actually believes that vision. Recent events also suggest otherwise, that Facebook is a pure profit machine under the guise of social media, even to it's own detriment, which we've seen pick up steam over the past few months. Reddit's founder however, despite sometimes holding some controversial views compared to their dominant user base, kept on fostering a community of largely uncensored free speech and allowing people to connect. There are a few exceptions (obvious hate subs, rogue mods, etc) but for the most part, everyone can find a niche and join a community without fearing the platform will change so much to squeeze an extra buck out them. Reddit and FB are both in the ad revenue game, but Reddit's largely anonymous user model lends itself to those ads feeling less intrusive. If I can live with giving up my fake internet points, I can effectively reset the data Reddit has on me by creating a new account. There could be some residual leftover data depending on IP addresses, but since most houses have multiple occupants, it's not an easy one to one pairing process between an IP address and an particular user. Not sure where I was going with this. Just spewing nonsense I suppose :)
InitialLastName 8y ago
I turned off that interview when he said that. Saying his tool is designed to connect people, while missing how effective a tool it's been for dividing people is willfully ignorant at best.
kazinator 8y ago
> their neighborhood would simply not have the correct prerequisites to form that group (i.e members). Or: wouldn't have the right kind of lunatics in the numbers needed to form a sufficiently reverberant echo chamber.
- zaphar 8y ago
  The thing is you can't have one without the other. You can't enable niche communities in a platform without also enabling communities that you consider reprehensible. You can try but all such attempts tend to devolve into a game of whackamole and frequent bad PR storms.

yurishimo 8y ago

Personally, I have a hard time believing that Zuckerberg actually believes that vision. Recent events also suggest otherwise, that Facebook is a pure profit machine under the guise of social media, even to it's own detriment, which we've seen pick up steam over the past few months. Reddit's founder however, despite sometimes holding some controversial views compared to their dominant user base, kept on fostering a community of largely uncensored free speech and allowing people to connect. There are a few exceptions (obvious hate subs, rogue mods, etc) but for the most part, everyone can find a niche and join a community without fearing the platform will change so much to squeeze an extra buck out them. Reddit and FB are both in the ad revenue game, but Reddit's largely anonymous user model lends itself to those ads feeling less intrusive. If I can live with giving up my fake internet points, I can effectively reset the data Reddit has on me by creating a new account. There could be some residual leftover data depending on IP addresses, but since most houses have multiple occupants, it's not an easy one to one pairing process between an IP address and an particular user. Not sure where I was going with this. Just spewing nonsense I suppose :)

InitialLastName 8y ago

I turned off that interview when he said that. Saying his tool is designed to connect people, while missing how effective a tool it's been for dividing people is willfully ignorant at best.

kazinator 8y ago

> their neighborhood would simply not have the correct prerequisites to form that group (i.e members). Or: wouldn't have the right kind of lunatics in the numbers needed to form a sufficiently reverberant echo chamber.

zaphar 8y ago
The thing is you can't have one without the other. You can't enable niche communities in a platform without also enabling communities that you consider reprehensible. You can try but all such attempts tend to devolve into a game of whackamole and frequent bad PR storms.