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It's extremely embarrassing/telling that it took Consumer Reports to point out their new car doesn't stop well.

by jonknee 8y ago

martin_bech 8y ago
This was not an issue on all cars.
- cjrp 8y ago
  Hit and miss braking on a single product line seems... kind of worse?
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    I had my Mercedes SLK350 try to launch me into an intersection once while stopped at the red light with my foot on the brake. The dealership reset the ECU and said “Let us know if it happens again.” Why everyone thinks these issues are Tesla specific is beyond me. They can at least address them over the air.
    - martin_bech 8y ago
      When I think about it, my BMW 3 series, also had a strange loss of accelartion in certain situations (very minor). Was fixed during a service interval, by flashing the ECU.
blevin 8y ago
Alternately, it's amazing and inspiring what just happened; other high-end car makers with a century of experience have shipped imperfect brakes for years (1) and only redesigned them on new models in response to complaints. Tesla, by comparison, is applying the Apple model (when Apple is at its best) of continuous over-the-air product improvement, which can change one’s sense of a product's value for money. 1. MERCEDES CANCELS BY-WIRE BRAKE SYSTEM; DECISION A BLOW TO TECHNOLOGY'S FUTURE. "When the system failed, the hydraulic system took over. But that resulted in a longer stopping distance and additional brake pedal effort by the driver." http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/mercedes-cancels-wire-brake-system-decision-blow-technologys-future http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/mercedes-cancels-wire-b...
- jonknee 8y ago
  Mercedes had a hardware problem and Tesla had a software problem, I really don't see how this is a win for Tesla. Tesla has done physical recalls before as well, not everything is a software bug. https://repairpal.com/recall/05V133000 https://repairpal.com/recall/05V133000
omarforgotpwd 8y ago
Well, I have the car and stopping distance was never an issue at all. With regenerative braking you start braking as soon as you take your foot of the gas so you’re usually stopping short of where you actually need to stop, not having trouble stopping fast enough. I really don’t think it was that big of a deal, but it could be fixed and so they did it to get the recommendation. And im sure it’s safer too which is what’s most important.

It's extremely embarrassing/telling that it took Consumer Reports to point out their new car doesn't stop well.

martin_bech 8y ago

This was not an issue on all cars.

cjrp 8y ago
Hit and miss braking on a single product line seems... kind of worse?
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  I had my Mercedes SLK350 try to launch me into an intersection once while stopped at the red light with my foot on the brake. The dealership reset the ECU and said “Let us know if it happens again.” Why everyone thinks these issues are Tesla specific is beyond me. They can at least address them over the air.
  - martin_bech 8y ago
    When I think about it, my BMW 3 series, also had a strange loss of accelartion in certain situations (very minor). Was fixed during a service interval, by flashing the ECU.

blevin 8y ago

Alternately, it's amazing and inspiring what just happened; other high-end car makers with a century of experience have shipped imperfect brakes for years (1) and only redesigned them on new models in response to complaints. Tesla, by comparison, is applying the Apple model (when Apple is at its best) of continuous over-the-air product improvement, which can change one’s sense of a product's value for money. 1. MERCEDES CANCELS BY-WIRE BRAKE SYSTEM; DECISION A BLOW TO TECHNOLOGY'S FUTURE. "When the system failed, the hydraulic system took over. But that resulted in a longer stopping distance and additional brake pedal effort by the driver." http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/mercedes-cancels-wire-brake-system-decision-blow-technologys-future http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/mercedes-cancels-wire-b...

jonknee 8y ago
Mercedes had a hardware problem and Tesla had a software problem, I really don't see how this is a win for Tesla. Tesla has done physical recalls before as well, not everything is a software bug. https://repairpal.com/recall/05V133000 https://repairpal.com/recall/05V133000

omarforgotpwd 8y ago

Well, I have the car and stopping distance was never an issue at all. With regenerative braking you start braking as soon as you take your foot of the gas so you’re usually stopping short of where you actually need to stop, not having trouble stopping fast enough. I really don’t think it was that big of a deal, but it could be fixed and so they did it to get the recommendation. And im sure it’s safer too which is what’s most important.