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France convicted 12 pro-Palestine activists for wearing "Boycott Israel" T-shirts. Azhar Ahmed, a British Muslim, was charged with treason, and ordered to pay
by bmelton 8y ago
France convicted 12 pro-Palestine activists for wearing "Boycott Israel" T-shirts.
Azhar Ahmed, a British Muslim, was charged with treason, and ordered to pay a fine and complete community service because of a Facebook post he made wishing "All soldiers should DIE & go to HELL"
Herve Eon was convicted in France for insulting former French President Nicolas Sarkozy by holding a sign that said “get lost, jerk”
And, despite your narrow definition, I posit that all of these are thought crimes in the common parlance, and even to your narrow definition, the first example showcases the assumption that being pro-Palestine is automatically anti-semitic, whether or not it actually is.
- dbasedweeb 8y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17188353 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17188353 Seriously, if you don’t know what something means, don’t use the the damned phrase. “For insulting” “For wearing” are not thought crimes. A handy rule to detect a thought crime is this: unless someone was jailed just for thinking it wasn’t a thought crime. Please, actually read 1984.
- bmelton 8y agoI've read 1984, thanks. As I mentioned (in an edit) to my post; in the first case, they weren't convicted for wearing T-shirts, because wearing T-shirts is perfectly legal. They wee convicted because of the presumption of anti-semitism in the message on the T-shirts, which is neither obvious nor absolute.
- DanBC 8y ago> Azhar Ahmed, a British Muslim, was charged with treason, and ordered to pay a fine and complete community service because of a Facebook post he made wishing "All soldiers should DIE & go to HELL" https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/azhar-ahmed-sentencing-remarks-09102012.pdf https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Document...