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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but forced updates have already come to linux: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for-snap-from-store

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but forced updates have already come to linux: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for-snap-from-store/707 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for... Even applications you'd expect to be native (apt packages) like `gnome-system-monitor` are included as snaps by default in the desktop version of ubuntu 18.04. All it takes is a someone with sufficient authority to make disabling snaps very difficult.[1] Unfortunately, there are plenty of lunatics on both sides of the fence who think they should have the final say in what you can do with your computer and when you can do it. [1] E.g gnome developers decided to change the default behavior of the power button, then decided that users shouldn't be allowed to change this behavior: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755953 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755953

Nadya 8y ago
Has come to Ubuntu flavors of Linux* and it seems, especially, just GNOME? I don't have this problem with Arch and pacman -Syu at my leisure. I refuse to use autoupdating software out of principle and am saddened so many people choose convenience over security.
- gkya 8y ago
  Not only, but Debian wouldn't do this ever too. It's just as easy to run a Debian desktop spin, and it does not have any of the scandals or idiotic decisions Ubuntu has. This is what's nice with the distro ecosystem. Someone messes their thing up and gives you the middle finger? Say bye and switch to a saner thing. Your apps will work on almost all of the Linux distros (GNU/ or not) and *BSD w/o any effort, and getting them to work otherwise is not only possible, but usually easy.
cuckcuckspruce 8y ago
One of the features of Snaps is that they explicitly automatically update. From the front page of https://snapcraft.io/ https://snapcraft.io/: "Automatic updates for everyone" If you don't want your software to automatically update then don't use a distribution format where the software automatically updates.
- Nadya 8y ago
  The complaint is centered around Ubuntu 18.04 moving to Snaps-by-default and that users are losing control over when they update their applications. Yes, that is easily remedied by moving off of Ubuntu. But avoiding Systemd was also as easy as not using Fedora - for a very short time. Time will tell how popular Snaps becomes for the major distros.

Nadya 8y ago

Has come to Ubuntu flavors of Linux* and it seems, especially, just GNOME? I don't have this problem with Arch and pacman -Syu at my leisure. I refuse to use autoupdating software out of principle and am saddened so many people choose convenience over security.

gkya 8y ago
Not only, but Debian wouldn't do this ever too. It's just as easy to run a Debian desktop spin, and it does not have any of the scandals or idiotic decisions Ubuntu has. This is what's nice with the distro ecosystem. Someone messes their thing up and gives you the middle finger? Say bye and switch to a saner thing. Your apps will work on almost all of the Linux distros (GNU/ or not) and *BSD w/o any effort, and getting them to work otherwise is not only possible, but usually easy.

cuckcuckspruce 8y ago

One of the features of Snaps is that they explicitly automatically update. From the front page of https://snapcraft.io/ https://snapcraft.io/: "Automatic updates for everyone" If you don't want your software to automatically update then don't use a distribution format where the software automatically updates.

Nadya 8y ago
The complaint is centered around Ubuntu 18.04 moving to Snaps-by-default and that users are losing control over when they update their applications. Yes, that is easily remedied by moving off of Ubuntu. But avoiding Systemd was also as easy as not using Fedora - for a very short time. Time will tell how popular Snaps becomes for the major distros.