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I had more or less the same situation with my last remaining Windows machine (mainly for games). I thought Windows reboots were supposed to get less over the y

I had more or less the same situation with my last remaining Windows machine (mainly for games). I thought Windows reboots were supposed to get less over the years but it has only gotten worse and I've got less autonomy over them with Windows 10. Go away from your computer for a little while and come back to a reboot (a little hyperbole). Now my gaming PC run Void Linux and with native Steam and Wine (PlayOnLinux, Lutris) I've got access to most of my game library. It's easier to just ignore the few games that do not work on Linux nowadays. Diablo 3 runs pretty well on it. (Still, I prefer to avoid Window'isms on Linux so no Gnome, Pulseaudio and other complications (which Void Linux makes easy to avoid).)

baud147258 8y ago
> I thought Windows reboots were supposed to get less over the years It's funny, I can't remember last time I had a forced reboot, either at work or at home, both on Windows 10. On the other hand, I'm shutting down my PC regularly
- s3m4j 8y ago
  Anecdotal, but I, on the other hand, have had quite a few forced reboot. I close the lid of my laptop and Windows goes to sleep, but during the night it somehow decides to do its thing and reboots. The thing is, I have BIOS password and a dual boot. It will then just hangs indefinitely on the BIOS password prompt. Fans spinning, CPU unthrottled for hours. And then lose network drivers inside Windows. Reinstalling drivers in the morning is not fun.
  - dpwm 8y ago
    That sounds like it's setting an RTC timer to wake up. You may be able to disable that. It may be called wake on timer or wake on RTC.
    - s3m4j 8y ago
      I have win10 pro, in theory I have disabled automatic reboots. In theory.
- superflyguy 8y ago
  Perhaps you're right and you just have to keep shutting your laptop down and booting up from cold to prevent Windows problems.. sorry, updates from happening at the wrong time. I watched a three hour stream of a professional chess player and youtuber and at the start he's saying "...oh, and I just updated my Windows laptop a few days ago so hopefully it won't start to slow down or apply an update while I'm playing". Amazing - he's playing bullet chess where you typically make each move in a second or so, and hundreds of games like that in a row so even a hint of lag is going to result in him moving the piece to the wrong place, or timing out and losing the tournament and he has to "hope" that his own computer won't decide it knows when to update and/or reboot. I have no idea how people put up with this shit. It's like an abusive relationship.
  - baud147258 8y ago
    Well, I don't have to put up with it, even if I'm on Windows 10.
  - digi_owl 8y ago
    Those really in the know seems to upgrade to a variant that allows them to go into group policy and curb stomp the auto-update. Others achieve the same via registry modifications...
    - baud147258 8y ago
      Or you block the download of updates via setting the wi-fi as a metered connection.
      - digi_owl 8y ago
        Not sure if that trick works any more in recent updates.
        superflyguy 8y ago
        Yeah I think you're sort of missing the point if you think it's acceptable to have to keep up with this season's registry hacks or hex edit a DLL or whatever so you can play a game or do your job.
- aerique 8y ago
  Yeah that might be it, I always hibernate my machines because I like to continue where I have left off.
gkya 8y ago
> Now my gaming PC run Void Linux and with native Steam and Wine (PlayOnLinux, Lutris) I've got access to most of my game library. It's easier to just ignore the few games that do not work on Linux nowadays. Do you have this setup online somewhere, like a blog post or a git repo?
- aerique 8y ago
  It's just a plain Void Linux[1] install without any desktop environment flavors. NVIDIA drivers, Steam, Wine, PlayOnLinux and Lutris are all available as a package. [1] https://voidlinux.eu/download/ https://voidlinux.eu/download/

baud147258 8y ago

> I thought Windows reboots were supposed to get less over the years It's funny, I can't remember last time I had a forced reboot, either at work or at home, both on Windows 10. On the other hand, I'm shutting down my PC regularly

s3m4j 8y ago
Anecdotal, but I, on the other hand, have had quite a few forced reboot. I close the lid of my laptop and Windows goes to sleep, but during the night it somehow decides to do its thing and reboots. The thing is, I have BIOS password and a dual boot. It will then just hangs indefinitely on the BIOS password prompt. Fans spinning, CPU unthrottled for hours. And then lose network drivers inside Windows. Reinstalling drivers in the morning is not fun.
- dpwm 8y ago
  That sounds like it's setting an RTC timer to wake up. You may be able to disable that. It may be called wake on timer or wake on RTC.
  - s3m4j 8y ago
    I have win10 pro, in theory I have disabled automatic reboots. In theory.
superflyguy 8y ago
Perhaps you're right and you just have to keep shutting your laptop down and booting up from cold to prevent Windows problems.. sorry, updates from happening at the wrong time. I watched a three hour stream of a professional chess player and youtuber and at the start he's saying "...oh, and I just updated my Windows laptop a few days ago so hopefully it won't start to slow down or apply an update while I'm playing". Amazing - he's playing bullet chess where you typically make each move in a second or so, and hundreds of games like that in a row so even a hint of lag is going to result in him moving the piece to the wrong place, or timing out and losing the tournament and he has to "hope" that his own computer won't decide it knows when to update and/or reboot. I have no idea how people put up with this shit. It's like an abusive relationship.
- baud147258 8y ago
  Well, I don't have to put up with it, even if I'm on Windows 10.
- digi_owl 8y ago
  Those really in the know seems to upgrade to a variant that allows them to go into group policy and curb stomp the auto-update. Others achieve the same via registry modifications...
  - baud147258 8y ago
    Or you block the download of updates via setting the wi-fi as a metered connection.
    - digi_owl 8y ago
      Not sure if that trick works any more in recent updates.
      - superflyguy 8y ago
        Yeah I think you're sort of missing the point if you think it's acceptable to have to keep up with this season's registry hacks or hex edit a DLL or whatever so you can play a game or do your job.
aerique 8y ago
Yeah that might be it, I always hibernate my machines because I like to continue where I have left off.

gkya 8y ago

> Now my gaming PC run Void Linux and with native Steam and Wine (PlayOnLinux, Lutris) I've got access to most of my game library. It's easier to just ignore the few games that do not work on Linux nowadays. Do you have this setup online somewhere, like a blog post or a git repo?

aerique 8y ago
It's just a plain Void Linux[1] install without any desktop environment flavors. NVIDIA drivers, Steam, Wine, PlayOnLinux and Lutris are all available as a package. [1] https://voidlinux.eu/download/ https://voidlinux.eu/download/