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Your post has two different points, and I think they should be separated. Yes, there's an AI hype train, and it's pretty tiring. I'm starting to wonder when t

Your post has two different points, and I think they should be separated. Yes, there's an AI hype train, and it's pretty tiring. I'm starting to wonder when the first AI-enhanced shoes are going to come out. Or an AI enhanced blockchain, right? That said, the rest of the rant about AI is less solid. Sure, AI today is fairly boring and run of the mill data processing / optimisation stuff (I sort of know, though I only have an MSc in the topic). Much of the promise of near-future AI is that we can go from human designed, or shall we say human-bootsrapped AI to self-bootstrapping kind. The fact that AlphaGo pretty much does this (in a very limited capacity), and accomplished something which classical programming and game "AI" couldn't, should show us that we're pretty close to this type of AI being highly effective. How exactly the future unfolds from there is anyone's guess, but outright calling it ignorant is... pretty ignorant, IMHO.

mastrsushi 8y ago
I never claimed AI was boring or run of the mill, just that it's not in my current interest. It's when I hear Hawking make claims like this, I call ignorance. "Computers can, in theory, emulate human intelligence, and exceed it,' he said. 'Success in creating effective AI, could be the biggest event in the history of our civilization. Or the worst. We just don't know. So we cannot know if we will be infinitely helped by AI, or ignored by it and side-lined, or conceivably destroyed by it.” I feel like I'm in a high school stoner circle, yeeesh!
- danielbarla 8y ago
  So, Hawking's preposition is that AI can surpass human intelligence. Is this the part you're disagreeing with? It's one thing to disagree, and it's another to call it ignorant. I for one agree that it can / will surpass human intelligence, it's just a question of when.
  - johnmoberg 8y ago
    Unless natural disaster and/or war resets humanity, it seems inevitable. One only needs to concede that there is (probably) nothing special about the biological nature of the brain.
    - danielbarla 8y ago
      That's my reasoning as well, regarding the biological part. On the one hand, it seems to be an incredibly energy-efficient solution, but has several detractors as well (in a lighthearted fashion: lack of scalability and high-bandwidth networking, several billion years of legacy code, etc). On the other hand, it's unclear whether computers will continue to get faster in the fashion that they are today for long enough. If not, then huge efficiency improvements would be necessary on the software side, though those do seem to be happening as well.
  - mastrsushi 8y ago
    I think it's completely possible AI can surpass our intelligence. Whether it's outside of our awareness or control, not likely.
kgwgk 8y ago
> I'm starting to wonder when the first AI-enhanced shoes are going to come out. Wait no more: The first connected cycling insole with artificial intelligence: https://www.digitsole.com/store/connected-insoles-cycling-run-profiler-cycling/ https://www.digitsole.com/store/connected-insoles-cycling-ru... The World's First Intelligent Sneaker: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/141658446/digitsole-smartshoe-the-worlds-first-intelligent-s https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/141658446/digitsole-sma...

mastrsushi 8y ago

I never claimed AI was boring or run of the mill, just that it's not in my current interest. It's when I hear Hawking make claims like this, I call ignorance. "Computers can, in theory, emulate human intelligence, and exceed it,' he said. 'Success in creating effective AI, could be the biggest event in the history of our civilization. Or the worst. We just don't know. So we cannot know if we will be infinitely helped by AI, or ignored by it and side-lined, or conceivably destroyed by it.” I feel like I'm in a high school stoner circle, yeeesh!

danielbarla 8y ago
So, Hawking's preposition is that AI can surpass human intelligence. Is this the part you're disagreeing with? It's one thing to disagree, and it's another to call it ignorant. I for one agree that it can / will surpass human intelligence, it's just a question of when.
- johnmoberg 8y ago
  Unless natural disaster and/or war resets humanity, it seems inevitable. One only needs to concede that there is (probably) nothing special about the biological nature of the brain.
  - danielbarla 8y ago
    That's my reasoning as well, regarding the biological part. On the one hand, it seems to be an incredibly energy-efficient solution, but has several detractors as well (in a lighthearted fashion: lack of scalability and high-bandwidth networking, several billion years of legacy code, etc). On the other hand, it's unclear whether computers will continue to get faster in the fashion that they are today for long enough. If not, then huge efficiency improvements would be necessary on the software side, though those do seem to be happening as well.
- mastrsushi 8y ago
  I think it's completely possible AI can surpass our intelligence. Whether it's outside of our awareness or control, not likely.

kgwgk 8y ago

> I'm starting to wonder when the first AI-enhanced shoes are going to come out. Wait no more: The first connected cycling insole with artificial intelligence: https://www.digitsole.com/store/connected-insoles-cycling-run-profiler-cycling/ https://www.digitsole.com/store/connected-insoles-cycling-ru... The World's First Intelligent Sneaker: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/141658446/digitsole-smartshoe-the-worlds-first-intelligent-s https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/141658446/digitsole-sma...