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> Eventually, we can drop the first as people adjust. This doesn't help in any way, shape or form. You have pissed off billions of people who have had to re-le

> Eventually, we can drop the first as people adjust. This doesn't help in any way, shape or form. You have pissed off billions of people who have had to re-learn custom times for things, you have caused the weekday to flip in the middle of the day for billions of people, and you STILL haven't solved the problem of "Can I call Uncle Steve in Melbourne, or is he sleeping right now?" https://qntm.org/abolish https://qntm.org/abolish

snarf21 8y ago
No one has to be pissed off, they will slowly adjust and learn. Eventually people will only think in UTC. If that never happens then, leave both times. I think over time people will develop an intuitive sense of UTC the same way we do now for timezones but we lose all of the issues with having more than one truth. There is no way to solve that problem of Uncle Steve (imo). But there is no difference in saying Steve is +8 hours so our noon is his 20:00 and or saying we should only call Steve between 03:00 and 20:00 UTC. It is an offset either way. It is only jarring to think that way now because it is the one way people have. There is also the problem of someone driving across the US and suddenly they pass an invisible line and now it is one hour in the past or the future. The day changing while you work already happens for everyone working 3rd shift. Billions of dollars in waste and confusion happen today because of forgetting about timezones. One study suggests that international trade is decreased by 5% per timezone between countries.
- henrikschroder 8y ago
  https://qntm.org/calendar https://qntm.org/calendar Your idea will not work. Here is why: (X) "7am" is a social construct (X) social constructs are actually very important (X) the day of the week shouldn't change in the middle of the solar day (X) this would further ambiguate the word "day" (X) local "midnight" should be the middle of the local night (X) timetables would become unreadable (X) nobody would agree to pick your time zone over theirs (X) how will I know when I can call you? (X) time zones exist specifically to resolve the problems with that scheme Specifically, your plan fails to account for: (X) humans (X) rational hatred for arbitrary change Furthermore, this is what I think about you: (X) sorry, but I don't think it would work (X) this is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it
  - dbasedweeb 8y ago
    this is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it Why ruin a good post with that last, grossly inappropriate line?
  - dang 8y ago
    Personal attacks will get you banned here. Please don't do that again. Also, please don't post snarky comments in the first place. This is in the site guidelines as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

snarf21 8y ago

No one has to be pissed off, they will slowly adjust and learn. Eventually people will only think in UTC. If that never happens then, leave both times. I think over time people will develop an intuitive sense of UTC the same way we do now for timezones but we lose all of the issues with having more than one truth. There is no way to solve that problem of Uncle Steve (imo). But there is no difference in saying Steve is +8 hours so our noon is his 20:00 and or saying we should only call Steve between 03:00 and 20:00 UTC. It is an offset either way. It is only jarring to think that way now because it is the one way people have. There is also the problem of someone driving across the US and suddenly they pass an invisible line and now it is one hour in the past or the future. The day changing while you work already happens for everyone working 3rd shift. Billions of dollars in waste and confusion happen today because of forgetting about timezones. One study suggests that international trade is decreased by 5% per timezone between countries.

henrikschroder 8y ago
https://qntm.org/calendar https://qntm.org/calendar Your idea will not work. Here is why: (X) "7am" is a social construct (X) social constructs are actually very important (X) the day of the week shouldn't change in the middle of the solar day (X) this would further ambiguate the word "day" (X) local "midnight" should be the middle of the local night (X) timetables would become unreadable (X) nobody would agree to pick your time zone over theirs (X) how will I know when I can call you? (X) time zones exist specifically to resolve the problems with that scheme Specifically, your plan fails to account for: (X) humans (X) rational hatred for arbitrary change Furthermore, this is what I think about you: (X) sorry, but I don't think it would work (X) this is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it
- dbasedweeb 8y ago
  this is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it Why ruin a good post with that last, grossly inappropriate line?
- dang 8y ago
  Personal attacks will get you banned here. Please don't do that again. Also, please don't post snarky comments in the first place. This is in the site guidelines as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.