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I picked an article that's about a year old in case there was an embargo before the free one could be made available. Paywalled nature article: https://www.natu

I picked an article that's about a year old in case there was an embargo before the free one could be made available. Paywalled nature article: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature22040 https://www.nature.com/articles/nature22040 Free version: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5712493/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5712493/

gowld 8y ago
"embargo" is a bit of a weasel word -- a few weeks embargo, maybe OK. 6-months embargo paralyzes progress.
- stilley2 8y ago
  Agreed. For the NIH it looks like the maximum is 12 months.
- nonbel 8y ago
  >"6-months embargo paralyzes progress." As long as they put the code on github or a blog or whatever then who really cares? Do people really get that much out of these academic style papers in this field? They are more like a press release. Or are you saying this embargo also actively prevents them from sharing stuff beyond the document, like the code?
aeorgnoieang 8y ago
Thanks for the demo! That papers will eventually (and mostly) be freely available is good and I am surprised that that seems to be the case. Thanks for sharing this info! But an embargo or delay in publishing to the free access sites is probably sufficient for the existing closed-access journals to maintain their value. I can't imagine researchers, and thus universities, forgoing access to current research.
- stilley2 8y ago
  I should point out that I believe these policies are relatively recent, so old articles may be paywalled for a while...
  - aeorgnoieang 8y ago
    Yeah; I saw that in another comment. Still, this is very good news. Hopefully everything will be freely available someday soonish, and without embargoes or delays.
  - japanuspus 8y ago
    To put "relatively recent" in context, I know for a fact that these rules were already in place in 2005 (source: was doing DARPA-funded research).

gowld 8y ago

"embargo" is a bit of a weasel word -- a few weeks embargo, maybe OK. 6-months embargo paralyzes progress.

stilley2 8y ago
Agreed. For the NIH it looks like the maximum is 12 months.
nonbel 8y ago
>"6-months embargo paralyzes progress." As long as they put the code on github or a blog or whatever then who really cares? Do people really get that much out of these academic style papers in this field? They are more like a press release. Or are you saying this embargo also actively prevents them from sharing stuff beyond the document, like the code?

aeorgnoieang 8y ago

Thanks for the demo! That papers will eventually (and mostly) be freely available is good and I am surprised that that seems to be the case. Thanks for sharing this info! But an embargo or delay in publishing to the free access sites is probably sufficient for the existing closed-access journals to maintain their value. I can't imagine researchers, and thus universities, forgoing access to current research.

stilley2 8y ago
I should point out that I believe these policies are relatively recent, so old articles may be paywalled for a while...
- aeorgnoieang 8y ago
  Yeah; I saw that in another comment. Still, this is very good news. Hopefully everything will be freely available someday soonish, and without embargoes or delays.
- japanuspus 8y ago
  To put "relatively recent" in context, I know for a fact that these rules were already in place in 2005 (source: was doing DARPA-funded research).