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That quote pretty much sums it up. Under Obama democrats abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism. Conservatives as a

That quote pretty much sums it up. Under Obama democrats abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism. Conservatives as a response abandoned their fiscal and economic conservatism and instead turned to identity politics of old white people. American society is deeply divided at the moment and Indians and Chinese immigrants and the collateral damage.

ebikelaw 8y ago
I invite you to describe any Obama-era policy that can be called “extreme leftist”.
- dang 8y ago
  Please don't take HN further into political flamewar. There's no way this can end well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
pavlov 8y ago
> Under Obama democrats abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism If the United States in 2016 represented extreme leftism, what do you call e.g. Mao's China in 1968?
- blunte 8y ago
  Given the attitudes of the current GOP, George W. Bush would not have even made the ticket and Reagan would be considered a Hollywood elite leftist. Fortunately this cancer is so exceptionally aggressive that it will kill the host very quickly.
  - stevenwoo 8y ago
    I agree with your first sentence and think your second sentence is incredibly optimistic. There are extremely few GOP candidates running in 2018 midterms who have explicitly run away from Trump - the incumbents that were outspoken against Trump decided not to run again or cannot run again.
    - blunte 8y ago
      When the oldest two generations die off, the center-left will become the right, and the left will become the moderate-left.
- dang 8y ago
  Please don't add ideological flamebait to partisan flamewar. All this is off topic here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 8y ago
Could you please stop posting political-ideological-national-racial-battle-style comments to HN? That is the opposite of what this site is for, and you've been doing it a lot lately. I appreciate that you have remained personally civil, and am sure that you don't intend to harm the community, but that's the effect it has in practice. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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yardie 8y ago
> abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism. Please go on I wasn't aware individual freedom was a right-wing ideology.
spamizbad 8y ago
How was Obama's socially center-left, economic center-right governance "extreme leftism"?
- dang 8y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17181811 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17181811

ebikelaw 8y ago

I invite you to describe any Obama-era policy that can be called “extreme leftist”.

dang 8y ago
Please don't take HN further into political flamewar. There's no way this can end well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

pavlov 8y ago

> Under Obama democrats abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism If the United States in 2016 represented extreme leftism, what do you call e.g. Mao's China in 1968?

blunte 8y ago
Given the attitudes of the current GOP, George W. Bush would not have even made the ticket and Reagan would be considered a Hollywood elite leftist. Fortunately this cancer is so exceptionally aggressive that it will kill the host very quickly.
- stevenwoo 8y ago
  I agree with your first sentence and think your second sentence is incredibly optimistic. There are extremely few GOP candidates running in 2018 midterms who have explicitly run away from Trump - the incumbents that were outspoken against Trump decided not to run again or cannot run again.
  - blunte 8y ago
    When the oldest two generations die off, the center-left will become the right, and the left will become the moderate-left.
dang 8y ago
Please don't add ideological flamebait to partisan flamewar. All this is off topic here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dang 8y ago

Could you please stop posting political-ideological-national-racial-battle-style comments to HN? That is the opposite of what this site is for, and you've been doing it a lot lately. I appreciate that you have remained personally civil, and am sure that you don't intend to harm the community, but that's the effect it has in practice. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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yardie 8y ago

> abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism. Please go on I wasn't aware individual freedom was a right-wing ideology.

spamizbad 8y ago

How was Obama's socially center-left, economic center-right governance "extreme leftism"?

dang 8y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17181811 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17181811