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For those who didn’t understand, these are actual quotes from the comments section. One user goes as far as saying “I’m a robot and also a human”. Really confus

by haolez 8y ago

For those who didn’t understand, these are actual quotes from the comments section. One user goes as far as saying “I’m a robot and also a human”. Really confusing.

kzrdude 8y ago
Is there any reason to believe we should take those comments seriously?
- deft 8y ago
  Not really. The person making them is known to be unhinged.
- jhoh 8y ago
  Check out the issue and read the comments. Then check out the profiles that make these comments. Some of them have blogs that very actively discuss these topics. Again, I've been on the platform for some time. These people are dead serious.
  - simias 8y ago
    I'm sure these people can be serious but I'm not sure they should be taken seriously (I assume that's what the parent was asking). Unless they're contributors one way or an other they're just 3rd party trying to create drama where there shouldn't be any.
  - djsumdog 8y ago
    I feel like Poe's Law has to come into play here. It's analogous to flat earthers. We don't really know if they're just trolling or genuinely taking themselves seriously without knowing the intent in their own heads (or some other verifiable writing/posts to indicate they know they're trolling)
    - robotbikes 8y ago
      They we're just programmed to start trouble, don't hate the robot, hate the code.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
  - freeopinion 8y ago
    I think it is part of Mastodon's appeal that there can be hosts that will welcome these people and hosts that boot these people. There doesn't have to be one single community that will either accept this or reject this. I tend to be more closed to stuff like this and don't want to be around it. But I'm glad that others are more inclusive and have a place they can be inclusive that doesn't have to include me.
- always_good 8y ago
  Check out "cool good to know i'm wrong to exist. thanks have fun" -- this is the modern toxic behavior you have to put up with these days. Someone basically elbows their way into the conversation and tries to derail it with some sort of diversity/inclusion issue. "hi any follow-ups on my comment or are we being ignored" If you like this kind of bullshit along with gender politics, you will love Mastodon.
  - lifeformed 8y ago
    I don't think these kinds of examples should be lumped into the category of "diversity/inclusion or gender politics" issues. If it's indistinguishable from trolling or satire, then it shouldn't be given any weight. Even if they are being actually earnest we shouldn't let their extreme views color our perception of more reasonable discussions.
    - sintaxi 8y ago
      Thats the thing with Postmodernism, if you think there is some sort of limit to its application you are mistaken and now on "the wrong side of history". To postmodernists, there is no limit to how far it will go because there is no truth, only power.
  - zaarn 8y ago
    You don't have to federate with these people or instances if you don't want to. (I say that as someone who has defederated or atleast silenced instances over ideological differences)
- narrator 8y ago
  Guys like James Corbett have been documenting a push to view robots as humans in the culture[1]. This trend is worrying to Corbett because he believes that it will be used to justify AI control of the population. For example, if robot police are used to control people then throwing a rock at a robot drone will be considered a felony because that robot is a person and has feelings too. If you disable a robot policeman then you killed it and you can be executed for that, etc. Maybe your home needs to be demolished to put in a robot factory. Robots are people to and have the right to live. Oh they should be able to vote to. And who programs the robots? They get extra rights for each robot they make. It's essentially laying the philosophical groundwork for an automated sybil attack on civil society. [1] https://www.corbettreport.com/and-now-for-the-robot-apocalypse/ https://www.corbettreport.com/and-now-for-the-robot-apocalyp...

by haolez 8y ago

For those who didn’t understand, these are actual quotes from the comments section. One user goes as far as saying “I’m a robot and also a human”. Really confusing.

kzrdude 8y ago

Is there any reason to believe we should take those comments seriously?

deft 8y ago
Not really. The person making them is known to be unhinged.
jhoh 8y ago
Check out the issue and read the comments. Then check out the profiles that make these comments. Some of them have blogs that very actively discuss these topics. Again, I've been on the platform for some time. These people are dead serious.
- simias 8y ago
  I'm sure these people can be serious but I'm not sure they should be taken seriously (I assume that's what the parent was asking). Unless they're contributors one way or an other they're just 3rd party trying to create drama where there shouldn't be any.
- djsumdog 8y ago
  I feel like Poe's Law has to come into play here. It's analogous to flat earthers. We don't really know if they're just trolling or genuinely taking themselves seriously without knowing the intent in their own heads (or some other verifiable writing/posts to indicate they know they're trolling)
  - robotbikes 8y ago
    They we're just programmed to start trouble, don't hate the robot, hate the code.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- freeopinion 8y ago
  I think it is part of Mastodon's appeal that there can be hosts that will welcome these people and hosts that boot these people. There doesn't have to be one single community that will either accept this or reject this. I tend to be more closed to stuff like this and don't want to be around it. But I'm glad that others are more inclusive and have a place they can be inclusive that doesn't have to include me.
always_good 8y ago
Check out "cool good to know i'm wrong to exist. thanks have fun" -- this is the modern toxic behavior you have to put up with these days. Someone basically elbows their way into the conversation and tries to derail it with some sort of diversity/inclusion issue. "hi any follow-ups on my comment or are we being ignored" If you like this kind of bullshit along with gender politics, you will love Mastodon.
- lifeformed 8y ago
  I don't think these kinds of examples should be lumped into the category of "diversity/inclusion or gender politics" issues. If it's indistinguishable from trolling or satire, then it shouldn't be given any weight. Even if they are being actually earnest we shouldn't let their extreme views color our perception of more reasonable discussions.
  - sintaxi 8y ago
    Thats the thing with Postmodernism, if you think there is some sort of limit to its application you are mistaken and now on "the wrong side of history". To postmodernists, there is no limit to how far it will go because there is no truth, only power.
- zaarn 8y ago
  You don't have to federate with these people or instances if you don't want to. (I say that as someone who has defederated or atleast silenced instances over ideological differences)
narrator 8y ago
Guys like James Corbett have been documenting a push to view robots as humans in the culture[1]. This trend is worrying to Corbett because he believes that it will be used to justify AI control of the population. For example, if robot police are used to control people then throwing a rock at a robot drone will be considered a felony because that robot is a person and has feelings too. If you disable a robot policeman then you killed it and you can be executed for that, etc. Maybe your home needs to be demolished to put in a robot factory. Robots are people to and have the right to live. Oh they should be able to vote to. And who programs the robots? They get extra rights for each robot they make. It's essentially laying the philosophical groundwork for an automated sybil attack on civil society. [1] https://www.corbettreport.com/and-now-for-the-robot-apocalypse/ https://www.corbettreport.com/and-now-for-the-robot-apocalyp...