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Meanwhile, men are accorded fewer visits at doctors (GP) in UK. 32% fewer visits compared to women: http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/8/e003320 http://bmjopen.b

Meanwhile, men are accorded fewer visits at doctors (GP) in UK. 32% fewer visits compared to women: http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/8/e003320 http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/8/e003320 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8588686.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8588686.stm When I go to the GP she makes me feel like I'm intruding and wasting her time, like you're a man in your 20s, nothing could be wrong..

SiempreViernes 8y ago
That men don't go to the doctor as much as they should, and do more visits if they are married is well established. Are you claiming that this fact is explained by the doctors actions and not by the gender norm that men should just bear with minor illness?
- PunchTornado 8y ago
  I think it's both. The GP doesn't seem to take you seriously if you appear to be a young healthy dude. I once hurt my ankle really bad while doing surfing and the doctor made fun of me "being girly" and to go home and put some ice on it. I just wanted to make sure there was nothing broken. Only recently while thinking about it I realised how bad his attitude was and it certainly made me think at that time that it is in my head and I shouldn't go to the doctor.
- belorn 8y ago
  I remember reading psychologist studies where doctors are twice as likely to diagnose a woman with depression compared to a man with an identical profile, and on average women have a higher chance of correctly getting an diagnose of depression. I also remember seeing a study that sent identical profiles to general doctors but with the profile gender randomized. The result as I recall was that female patients were more likely to be believed in regard to pain and self-reported symptoms, but those men that did still get diagnosed were more likely to get active treatments.
matthewmacleod 8y ago
Maybe get a better GP? Seriously, I've never encountered this attitude. Doctors seem to be generally fairly clinical and professional.
- clojurestan 8y ago
  Young man here, happens to me all the time
- alibarber 8y ago
  In my experience it's not the doctors, who without exception have always been pretty good - but the clerical / reception staff. I've rarely been made to feel so unwelcome anywhere else. It's gotten to the point where I just stump up the cash and go private, although now I feel things have gotten better with the introduction of app based consultations via the NHS, which I'm registered for but haven't needed to try out yet.
- whattheasdf 8y ago
  You assume that that is not only an option, that it is easy to do so, and that changing GP will make a difference when you are in a monopolistic system like a government captured and controlled healthcare where there is little to approaching zero incentive to differentiate and be exceptional. I frequently find myself confronted with the reality that most people don't seem to be able to fully refactor their thinking about things. They are unable to fully realize and consider the consequences and impacts of their actions on all aspects of the system they are proposing massive changes too. What's even more baffling is that this mentality is not only seemingly extremely well represented in the tech community, but that it can exist in the tech community at all without even the slightest pause about the impact of massive changes and zero appreciation for reflexive unintended (which really should be called unrealized) consequences. Another great example of this is the socialist/communist/marxist/progressive/liberal types' apparent inherently inability to comprehend that the policies and actions they advance and support will have equal and opposite reaction. There is so frequently today this assumption that "all other things will remain equal", which is absolutely never the case in a system, let alone a complex one.
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SiempreViernes 8y ago

That men don't go to the doctor as much as they should, and do more visits if they are married is well established. Are you claiming that this fact is explained by the doctors actions and not by the gender norm that men should just bear with minor illness?

PunchTornado 8y ago
I think it's both. The GP doesn't seem to take you seriously if you appear to be a young healthy dude. I once hurt my ankle really bad while doing surfing and the doctor made fun of me "being girly" and to go home and put some ice on it. I just wanted to make sure there was nothing broken. Only recently while thinking about it I realised how bad his attitude was and it certainly made me think at that time that it is in my head and I shouldn't go to the doctor.
belorn 8y ago
I remember reading psychologist studies where doctors are twice as likely to diagnose a woman with depression compared to a man with an identical profile, and on average women have a higher chance of correctly getting an diagnose of depression. I also remember seeing a study that sent identical profiles to general doctors but with the profile gender randomized. The result as I recall was that female patients were more likely to be believed in regard to pain and self-reported symptoms, but those men that did still get diagnosed were more likely to get active treatments.

matthewmacleod 8y ago

Maybe get a better GP? Seriously, I've never encountered this attitude. Doctors seem to be generally fairly clinical and professional.

clojurestan 8y ago
Young man here, happens to me all the time
alibarber 8y ago
In my experience it's not the doctors, who without exception have always been pretty good - but the clerical / reception staff. I've rarely been made to feel so unwelcome anywhere else. It's gotten to the point where I just stump up the cash and go private, although now I feel things have gotten better with the introduction of app based consultations via the NHS, which I'm registered for but haven't needed to try out yet.
whattheasdf 8y ago
You assume that that is not only an option, that it is easy to do so, and that changing GP will make a difference when you are in a monopolistic system like a government captured and controlled healthcare where there is little to approaching zero incentive to differentiate and be exceptional. I frequently find myself confronted with the reality that most people don't seem to be able to fully refactor their thinking about things. They are unable to fully realize and consider the consequences and impacts of their actions on all aspects of the system they are proposing massive changes too. What's even more baffling is that this mentality is not only seemingly extremely well represented in the tech community, but that it can exist in the tech community at all without even the slightest pause about the impact of massive changes and zero appreciation for reflexive unintended (which really should be called unrealized) consequences. Another great example of this is the socialist/communist/marxist/progressive/liberal types' apparent inherently inability to comprehend that the policies and actions they advance and support will have equal and opposite reaction. There is so frequently today this assumption that "all other things will remain equal", which is absolutely never the case in a system, let alone a complex one.

23443463455 8y ago