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> Twenty-eight regulators appointed by different political groups are a complex system. You will need to gain expertise on them or hire someone with it. All I’m

> Twenty-eight regulators appointed by different political groups are a complex system. You will need to gain expertise on them or hire someone with it. All I’m saying is that time and money might be better used elsewhere. Particularly by someone just making side projects. If you're not collecting data, then all of this is irrelevant. You just say "I'm not collecting data". There's no nuance here.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> There's no nuance here This is your interpretation. Many prominent lawyers disagree. In any case, convincing a regulator that you are not, in fact, collecting data could be harrowing, distracting and expensive. The risk of incurring those costs probably isn’t a smart one to take for a hacker or very early-stage start-up.
- aninhumer 8y ago
  So in this hypothetical scenario, for some reason the regulator looks at your website, which presumably has no personal information inputs, no tracking analytics etc. and which you have asserted collects no personal information, and they decide that you're still somehow collecting information, and for some reason hounding your low traffic website is the best use of their limited resources.
  - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
    Taking that risk (of a regulator mis-interpreting something and needing clarifications, again and again, or worse, mis-interpreting something and getting hostile) across the EU’s twenty-eight members is a good one for Facebook. Probably not for a hobbyist.
    - aninhumer 8y ago
      What exactly is the risk to a hobbyist here? Even if we assume a completely bizarre and pathologically incompetent regulator that somehow ends up zeroing in on some tiny website which exhibits no evidence of violation, the hobbyist might have to... delete their website?
      - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
        > What exactly is the risk to a hobbyist here? Have you ever responded to a regulatory enquiry?
        tome 8y ago
        If you have then perhaps you could share your experience more explicitly. It would be helpful to clarify your point of view.
  - hartator 8y ago
    So, we’re hoping bureaucray will save ourself from itself by its innefiency?
- nottorp 8y ago
  > > There's no nuance here > This is your interpretation. Many prominent lawyers disagree. I'd like to point out that it's in the interest of a proeminent lawyer to tell you that their services are needed...
hartator 8y ago
> If you're not collecting data, then all of this is irrelevant. You just say "I'm not collecting data". There's no nuance here. How do you prove you are not collecting data? If your use default configs of Apache, or Nginx, your access.log is probably infringing GDPR. It’s impossible to prove you’re not collecting this without an extensive audit.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

> There's no nuance here This is your interpretation. Many prominent lawyers disagree. In any case, convincing a regulator that you are not, in fact, collecting data could be harrowing, distracting and expensive. The risk of incurring those costs probably isn’t a smart one to take for a hacker or very early-stage start-up.

aninhumer 8y ago
So in this hypothetical scenario, for some reason the regulator looks at your website, which presumably has no personal information inputs, no tracking analytics etc. and which you have asserted collects no personal information, and they decide that you're still somehow collecting information, and for some reason hounding your low traffic website is the best use of their limited resources.
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago
  Taking that risk (of a regulator mis-interpreting something and needing clarifications, again and again, or worse, mis-interpreting something and getting hostile) across the EU’s twenty-eight members is a good one for Facebook. Probably not for a hobbyist.
  - aninhumer 8y ago
    What exactly is the risk to a hobbyist here? Even if we assume a completely bizarre and pathologically incompetent regulator that somehow ends up zeroing in on some tiny website which exhibits no evidence of violation, the hobbyist might have to... delete their website?
    - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
      > What exactly is the risk to a hobbyist here? Have you ever responded to a regulatory enquiry?
      - tome 8y ago
        If you have then perhaps you could share your experience more explicitly. It would be helpful to clarify your point of view.
- hartator 8y ago
  So, we’re hoping bureaucray will save ourself from itself by its innefiency?
nottorp 8y ago
> > There's no nuance here > This is your interpretation. Many prominent lawyers disagree. I'd like to point out that it's in the interest of a proeminent lawyer to tell you that their services are needed...

hartator 8y ago

> If you're not collecting data, then all of this is irrelevant. You just say "I'm not collecting data". There's no nuance here. How do you prove you are not collecting data? If your use default configs of Apache, or Nginx, your access.log is probably infringing GDPR. It’s impossible to prove you’re not collecting this without an extensive audit.