You'd be far less cringey if you could back up your wild hand-waving with actual points or arguments. I actually own lenses by both of these manufacturers. I

You'd be far less cringey if you could back up your wild hand-waving with actual points or arguments. I actually own lenses by both of these manufacturers. I have Sigma's GL optics cine glass. I have some vintage Tokina glass that Angenieux made, which is considered their best lens (though it's not modern). They're fine lenses, but only a goofball would think about comparing them to a $20k lens.