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No, they aren't. There have been user complaints about them. These complaints can ultimately result in a investigation and finally a court case. That is still f

by y4mi 8y ago

No, they aren't. There have been user complaints about them. These complaints can ultimately result in a investigation and finally a court case. That is still far off, however

RobertRoberts 8y ago
Yes, they are. http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-facebook-google/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-f... >"The suit against Google alleges that users of the company's Android software are forced to turn over personal data to use an Android-powered mobile device. The lawsuit alleges this "forced consent" amounts to a violation of GDPR, which guarantees individuals the right to consent when companies want to collect and process their personal data."
- y4mi 8y ago
  this just shows how lacking cnns quality is nowadays. It most likely will become a lawsuit in the next days/weeks, yes. But just because an investigation got started doesnt necessarily mean that it'll end in an lawsuit. This is exactly was the original post was talking about. The investigator will contact the company, look at how the company processes the data and finally - if they're willfully ignoring gdpr - open an actual case. more likely however is that the company already tried to comply and will just get a few reports of things they have to change/improve. as google probably doesn't have interest in actually upholding gdpr, the investigators will probably soon-ish open an actual suit.
  - RobertRoberts 8y ago
    >this just shows how lacking cnns quality is nowadays. Do I _really_ need to link to all the other news companies saying the same thing? There are lawsuits started already.
    - y4mi 8y ago
      They're all referencing each other and misleadingly written. thats what they've been trained to do after all. The source of the news are always the four complaints by noyb.eu, just as hadrien01 pointed out earlier. Most non-sensationalist news pointed out that the nonprofit noyb.eu was probably created in the spirit of patent trolls.
      - RobertRoberts 8y ago
        You are missing the entire point of this thread, my first comment: >I can't afford the legal costs to prove my innocence against a foreign government anymore than I could afford a $20 million fine. (there's no limit to how many times they can attempt to fine you, even if you are innocent every time) This is just _one_ person/entity suing these companies (not even the government). Unless they want a default judgement against them, they have to pay lawyers to defend these suits. They are being sued under the GDPR, the complaints linked on noyb.eu are not "misleading" they are legal documents that have been submitted to the courts. That's what a lawsuit is. It doesn't matter who initiated it or why.
        y4mi 8y ago
        And to my knowledge the court first has to say 'yeah, they've got a point. Please explain'. I'm not a lawyer though, so I might've misunderstood the wording.
- hadrien01 8y ago
  To add to what y4mi said, the organisation that submitted the complaints put them on their website: https://noyb.eu/ https://noyb.eu/

by y4mi 8y ago

No, they aren't. There have been user complaints about them. These complaints can ultimately result in a investigation and finally a court case. That is still far off, however

RobertRoberts 8y ago

Yes, they are. http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-facebook-google/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-f... >"The suit against Google alleges that users of the company's Android software are forced to turn over personal data to use an Android-powered mobile device. The lawsuit alleges this "forced consent" amounts to a violation of GDPR, which guarantees individuals the right to consent when companies want to collect and process their personal data."

y4mi 8y ago
this just shows how lacking cnns quality is nowadays. It most likely will become a lawsuit in the next days/weeks, yes. But just because an investigation got started doesnt necessarily mean that it'll end in an lawsuit. This is exactly was the original post was talking about. The investigator will contact the company, look at how the company processes the data and finally - if they're willfully ignoring gdpr - open an actual case. more likely however is that the company already tried to comply and will just get a few reports of things they have to change/improve. as google probably doesn't have interest in actually upholding gdpr, the investigators will probably soon-ish open an actual suit.
- RobertRoberts 8y ago
  >this just shows how lacking cnns quality is nowadays. Do I _really_ need to link to all the other news companies saying the same thing? There are lawsuits started already.
  - y4mi 8y ago
    They're all referencing each other and misleadingly written. thats what they've been trained to do after all. The source of the news are always the four complaints by noyb.eu, just as hadrien01 pointed out earlier. Most non-sensationalist news pointed out that the nonprofit noyb.eu was probably created in the spirit of patent trolls.
    - RobertRoberts 8y ago
      You are missing the entire point of this thread, my first comment: >I can't afford the legal costs to prove my innocence against a foreign government anymore than I could afford a $20 million fine. (there's no limit to how many times they can attempt to fine you, even if you are innocent every time) This is just _one_ person/entity suing these companies (not even the government). Unless they want a default judgement against them, they have to pay lawyers to defend these suits. They are being sued under the GDPR, the complaints linked on noyb.eu are not "misleading" they are legal documents that have been submitted to the courts. That's what a lawsuit is. It doesn't matter who initiated it or why.
      - y4mi 8y ago
        And to my knowledge the court first has to say 'yeah, they've got a point. Please explain'. I'm not a lawyer though, so I might've misunderstood the wording.
hadrien01 8y ago
To add to what y4mi said, the organisation that submitted the complaints put them on their website: https://noyb.eu/ https://noyb.eu/