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You obviously don't know how the EU works. If a Data Protection Agency comes to know your wrongdoings, they'll first try to resolve peacefully the matter, by te

You obviously don't know how the EU works. If a Data Protection Agency comes to know your wrongdoings, they'll first try to resolve peacefully the matter, by telling you what you're doing wrong. Only if you persist multiple times you'll be in danger of being brought to court.

dogma1138 8y ago
That’s not true at least in the UK and Germany fines are issued essentially on the stop for every violation even questionable ones.
- detaro 8y ago
  Source? From what I know, the German DPAs (they are organized on state level) hand out like 2 fines per month each, generally way below the maxima (under old German law, the max was 300000 €), and concluding the majority of cases without a fine. E.g. from the Bavarian DPA (german doc: https://www.lda.bayern.de/media/baylda_report_07.pdf https://www.lda.bayern.de/media/baylda_report_07.pdf, page 151): in the years 2015-2016 they had 173 proceedings that could involved potential fines. 52 of those resulted in fines. 34 of those fines were <1k€, 13 were <10k€.
RobertRoberts 8y ago
You are so wrong, Google and Facebook are already being sued, the FIRST day the law has been in effect.
- y4mi 8y ago
  No, they aren't. There have been user complaints about them. These complaints can ultimately result in a investigation and finally a court case. That is still far off, however
  - RobertRoberts 8y ago
    Yes, they are. http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-facebook-google/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-f... >"The suit against Google alleges that users of the company's Android software are forced to turn over personal data to use an Android-powered mobile device. The lawsuit alleges this "forced consent" amounts to a violation of GDPR, which guarantees individuals the right to consent when companies want to collect and process their personal data."
    - y4mi 8y ago
      this just shows how lacking cnns quality is nowadays. It most likely will become a lawsuit in the next days/weeks, yes. But just because an investigation got started doesnt necessarily mean that it'll end in an lawsuit. This is exactly was the original post was talking about. The investigator will contact the company, look at how the company processes the data and finally - if they're willfully ignoring gdpr - open an actual case. more likely however is that the company already tried to comply and will just get a few reports of things they have to change/improve. as google probably doesn't have interest in actually upholding gdpr, the investigators will probably soon-ish open an actual suit.
      - RobertRoberts 8y ago
        >this just shows how lacking cnns quality is nowadays. Do I _really_ need to link to all the other news companies saying the same thing? There are lawsuits started already.
        y4mi 8y ago
        They're all referencing each other and misleadingly written. thats what they've been trained to do after all. The source of the news are always the four complaints by noyb.eu, just as hadrien01 pointed out earlier. Most non-sensationalist news pointed out that the nonprofit noyb.eu was probably created in the spirit of patent trolls.
        8y ago

dogma1138 8y ago

That’s not true at least in the UK and Germany fines are issued essentially on the stop for every violation even questionable ones.

detaro 8y ago
Source? From what I know, the German DPAs (they are organized on state level) hand out like 2 fines per month each, generally way below the maxima (under old German law, the max was 300000 €), and concluding the majority of cases without a fine. E.g. from the Bavarian DPA (german doc: https://www.lda.bayern.de/media/baylda_report_07.pdf https://www.lda.bayern.de/media/baylda_report_07.pdf, page 151): in the years 2015-2016 they had 173 proceedings that could involved potential fines. 52 of those resulted in fines. 34 of those fines were <1k€, 13 were <10k€.

RobertRoberts 8y ago

You are so wrong, Google and Facebook are already being sued, the FIRST day the law has been in effect.

y4mi 8y ago
No, they aren't. There have been user complaints about them. These complaints can ultimately result in a investigation and finally a court case. That is still far off, however
- RobertRoberts 8y ago
  Yes, they are. http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-facebook-google/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-f... >"The suit against Google alleges that users of the company's Android software are forced to turn over personal data to use an Android-powered mobile device. The lawsuit alleges this "forced consent" amounts to a violation of GDPR, which guarantees individuals the right to consent when companies want to collect and process their personal data."
  - y4mi 8y ago
    this just shows how lacking cnns quality is nowadays. It most likely will become a lawsuit in the next days/weeks, yes. But just because an investigation got started doesnt necessarily mean that it'll end in an lawsuit. This is exactly was the original post was talking about. The investigator will contact the company, look at how the company processes the data and finally - if they're willfully ignoring gdpr - open an actual case. more likely however is that the company already tried to comply and will just get a few reports of things they have to change/improve. as google probably doesn't have interest in actually upholding gdpr, the investigators will probably soon-ish open an actual suit.
    - RobertRoberts 8y ago
      >this just shows how lacking cnns quality is nowadays. Do I _really_ need to link to all the other news companies saying the same thing? There are lawsuits started already.
      - y4mi 8y ago
        They're all referencing each other and misleadingly written. thats what they've been trained to do after all. The source of the news are always the four complaints by noyb.eu, just as hadrien01 pointed out earlier. Most non-sensationalist news pointed out that the nonprofit noyb.eu was probably created in the spirit of patent trolls.
        8y ago