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Socialism, Communism? The workers owning the means of production and abolition of private property? Cuba is doing fairly fine despite decades of American propag

Socialism, Communism? The workers owning the means of production and abolition of private property? Cuba is doing fairly fine despite decades of American propaganda & the embargo. It has its problems, but so does USA or any country for that matter.

mirko22 8y ago
Not necessarily existing system. Any system where people are truly equal. Even in communism you will have leaders, and leaders will enjoy some form of higher privilege. So collective ownership of the, in lack of the better word, stuff would still not abolish social privileges, which people renowned in some manner would have. Likewise, different responsibility instiled in people by any means, will undoubtedly lead to different performance in the work place, which will, in some way or other, separate them from general social or material status. So, it seems to me, best we could do is some form of society wich has low band of frequency in which people can move in any type of self emerging hierarchy so everyone enjoys nearly the same status. But how do you deal with over achievers then? There would inevitably be people who, with their performance, go out of that band. You might start by separating achievers that contribute or take from society which would then lead to having some form of arbitars which would in turn again enyjoy some type of higher status. And so on... the only truly equal society is the one where everyone share the same thoughts and goals and do the same things, as any deviation into something new could spell special privileges for that individual. And i do this only as a thought experiment, cos I am stuck in the loop of if not all people think and do the same thing how can we expect them to be same... So maybe someone has ideas about this. Maybe I am just crazy.

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Socialism, Communism? The workers owning the means of production and abolition of private property? Cuba is doing fairly fine despite decades of American propag

by prolikewhoa 8y ago

mirko22 8y ago
Not necessarily existing system. Any system where people are truly equal. Even in communism you will have leaders, and leaders will enjoy some form of higher privilege. So collective ownership of the, in lack of the better word, stuff would still not abolish social privileges, which people renowned in some manner would have. Likewise, different responsibility instiled in people by any means, will undoubtedly lead to different performance in the work place, which will, in some way or other, separate them from general social or material status. So, it seems to me, best we could do is some form of society wich has low band of frequency in which people can move in any type of self emerging hierarchy so everyone enjoys nearly the same status. But how do you deal with over achievers then? There would inevitably be people who, with their performance, go out of that band. You might start by separating achievers that contribute or take from society which would then lead to having some form of arbitars which would in turn again enyjoy some type of higher status. And so on... the only truly equal society is the one where everyone share the same thoughts and goals and do the same things, as any deviation into something new could spell special privileges for that individual. And i do this only as a thought experiment, cos I am stuck in the loop of if not all people think and do the same thing how can we expect them to be same... So maybe someone has ideas about this. Maybe I am just crazy.