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There has been no reduction of education spending on a per-capita basis (or any other form of measurement). https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart

by bhawks 8y ago

There has been no reduction of education spending on a per-capita basis (or any other form of measurement). https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1970_2023USd_19s2li011mcn_20t https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1970_202... It has grown at an amazing rate (as have Medicare/pensions etc). Half of the income of the middle 20% of retired folks (those making less than $65K) comes from the government subsidies you'd like to cut. The 2nd 20% gets 2/3rds their income from the government and the bottom gets practically all of it. Cuts here will materially impact the poorest elderly. Citations: https://usafacts.org/reports/annual/2018 https://usafacts.org/reports/annual/2018 My personal TL;DR is that we've been throwing money at all these problems and they are still so far from being solved :( Actually throwing money around seems to make things much worse. People are taking a NIMBY style stance (cut those programs I don't use and give me/people like me the difference -- definitely don't cut my programs) that is not going to achieve anything but further animosity and grief :(

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
You mention NIMBYism. I would regard that as the principal vector of wealth transfer.
- bhawks 8y ago
  Nimbyism is only a regional factor. I think we agree this is a national conversation.
  - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
    Local themes can manifest at scale. Many large cities are affected by generational NIMBYism. That collects to produce a macroeconomic effect.
    - bhawks 8y ago
      But the data doesn't show that there's a bunch of rich old folks mooching on the labor of everyone else. Basically the median elderly person has enough money to pay off the median house and then nothing else. After a lifetime of work isn't this acceptable? Secondary source: http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/time-to-bury-pew-report-on-wealth-by-age-group http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/time-to-bury-pew-report... On mobile otherwise I would link in the primary data.
anonymouskimmer 8y ago
"There has been no reduction of education spending on a per-capita basis (or any other form of measurement)." You have the per student basis? And how much of this so-called "education spending" goes to things which have nothing to do with the students (such as research only loosely affiliated with a university - e.g. through its medical school)?

by bhawks 8y ago

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

You mention NIMBYism. I would regard that as the principal vector of wealth transfer.

bhawks 8y ago
Nimbyism is only a regional factor. I think we agree this is a national conversation.
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago
  Local themes can manifest at scale. Many large cities are affected by generational NIMBYism. That collects to produce a macroeconomic effect.
  - bhawks 8y ago
    But the data doesn't show that there's a bunch of rich old folks mooching on the labor of everyone else. Basically the median elderly person has enough money to pay off the median house and then nothing else. After a lifetime of work isn't this acceptable? Secondary source: http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/time-to-bury-pew-report-on-wealth-by-age-group http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/time-to-bury-pew-report... On mobile otherwise I would link in the primary data.

anonymouskimmer 8y ago

"There has been no reduction of education spending on a per-capita basis (or any other form of measurement)." You have the per student basis? And how much of this so-called "education spending" goes to things which have nothing to do with the students (such as research only loosely affiliated with a university - e.g. through its medical school)?