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This is a great canary to weed out shady businesses and websites which cannot account for how they treat their users data. Meanwhile other businesses which tak

This is a great canary to weed out shady businesses and websites which cannot account for how they treat their users data. Meanwhile other businesses which takes the GDPR seriously gets a massive boost in trust and reputation. Guess which ones are going to get meaningful new business and which ones will be deemed unreliable and untrustworthy?

RobertRoberts 8y ago
I think this was meant as a hammer on Facebook/Google cartel. I doubt even MS, Amazon, or other large companies will be as adversely affected. The GDPR targets the very business models of companies that collect data and sell it. For this I applaud it's effects, but it's a big nasty dragnet, and innocents are likely to get hurt.
yehosef 8y ago
I've seen this argument/fallacy said over and over again and it's time to speak up. This is called the "black and white" or "false dilemma" fallacy (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white). The premise is "Either you support the GDPR" or "you're running a shady PII sales scheme". The problem is that there is another option, you're not trying to abuse anyone's data but you don't have the time or interest to protect yourself against a vague legal document with Draconian fines and no track-record to know how it will be enforced. And some of the requirements sound good on paper but less good in front of a screen. Take the request to see my data or download it. I either need to build in a process to automate it or do it manually, both of which take effort. Deleting data is another sounds-simpler-than-it-is problem. What about deleting PII like username from log files? There are lots of people that are making this out like it's not that big of a deal - but it's not something I was expected to do until now and that most of the countries in the world require me to do. I'm not selling people's data or misuse it or them - why should I have to jump through these hoops if I don't need the EU audience or their threat of serious fines.

RobertRoberts 8y ago

I think this was meant as a hammer on Facebook/Google cartel. I doubt even MS, Amazon, or other large companies will be as adversely affected. The GDPR targets the very business models of companies that collect data and sell it. For this I applaud it's effects, but it's a big nasty dragnet, and innocents are likely to get hurt.

yehosef 8y ago

I've seen this argument/fallacy said over and over again and it's time to speak up. This is called the "black and white" or "false dilemma" fallacy (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white). The premise is "Either you support the GDPR" or "you're running a shady PII sales scheme". The problem is that there is another option, you're not trying to abuse anyone's data but you don't have the time or interest to protect yourself against a vague legal document with Draconian fines and no track-record to know how it will be enforced. And some of the requirements sound good on paper but less good in front of a screen. Take the request to see my data or download it. I either need to build in a process to automate it or do it manually, both of which take effort. Deleting data is another sounds-simpler-than-it-is problem. What about deleting PII like username from log files? There are lots of people that are making this out like it's not that big of a deal - but it's not something I was expected to do until now and that most of the countries in the world require me to do. I'm not selling people's data or misuse it or them - why should I have to jump through these hoops if I don't need the EU audience or their threat of serious fines.