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I've always wanted a device to strap to my handlebars that takes a short video loop. It also has a rear camera, so i get "all around" view. If I press a button,

I've always wanted a device to strap to my handlebars that takes a short video loop. It also has a rear camera, so i get "all around" view. If I press a button, it saves the video. This can be coupled with a bluetooth or usb connection to phone/laptop/whatever, and automatically uploads the video, along with gps coords, to a website. This site can be community based, where sharing the videos is encouraged. Since the license plates of the cars involved are also then visible, perhaps a lookup of name and other info can be automated, and a complaint filed to the appropriate authorities. Other embarrassment could be arranged too -- but the line to harrassment here is narrow...

mhb 16y ago
Might as well add an accelerometer to automatically save if it exceeds a threshold.
- sophacles 16y ago
  As long as its in addition to the button, instead of in place of it. Lots of aggressive driver actions don't result in crazy acceleration on my part.
  - larcher 16y ago
    I would think the accelerometer trigger would be in case of any unintentional dismount or an unscheduled end-of-trip, rather than a cyclist powered change in speed. But yes, have both. Options are good.
    - sophacles 16y ago
      I was using the term acceleration in it's physics sense "a change in the velocity vector" which means both speed and direction. Crazy meant multiple rapid changes in direction and speed, like say, falling off a bike would result in this "crazy acceleration" as would being hit by something. Also, sometimes the reaction/result of aggressive drivers isn't catastrophic. For instance, today on my way home from work I had 2 different drivers decide to come within a foot of my bike while passing. This is a calculated move, intended to scare me and teach me a lesson. I know because in one case, I asked when we both got to the same red light, and in the other, the rude gestures of the driver. An accelerometer would have shown nothing, as any reaction on my part would probably have been worse than just hoping the driver didn't judge wrong. It's not just "tight driving" either, other times drivers are rude, make threatening actions with their vehicles or just plain block my motion preventing me from changing lanes, making turns, and so on, which should be captured, but don't cause anything particularly noticeable in accelerometer data. Alternately, the false positive rate is probably pretty high here too. I have at least 2 places on my daily commute where I short-cut thru alleys and make some pretty jarring curb passages. There is one particularly tricky transition from street to bike path involving 3 turns in a very short distance (30ish feet). On fast days I bet it looks more like reacting to an aggressive driver than most aggressive driver reactions (from an accelerometer point of view).
  - mhb 16y ago
    Maybe an expletive detector too, then.
- MartinCron 16y ago
  I hadn't even thought about the accelerometer. That would be useful information to persist as well, and also available on smartphone platforms.
  - something 16y ago
    um, there (should be) an app for that? the whole setup could probably bluetooth to a mobile device as a recorder. i might want to know it's dedicated, though. if the wheel is spinning, the unit is on and recording.
ydant 16y ago
There's this - http://www.vagabondish.com/looxcie-wearable-bluetooth-camera-headset http://www.vagabondish.com/looxcie-wearable-bluetooth-camera... And also the GoPro http://www.goprocamera.com/ http://www.goprocamera.com/ Neither of which quite match your requirements, though.
- sophacles 16y ago
  Cool, thanks!
- bigiain 16y ago
  And these, which are all over eBay (search for "808 camera", this is just the first google hit I got, not any particular recommendation for this seller): http://cgi.ebay.com/808-Car-Keys-Micro-camera-Spy-DVR-Support-TF-Card-/280432430437 http://cgi.ebay.com/808-Car-Keys-Micro-camera-Spy-DVR-Suppor... and _really_ inexpensive - you get ~60-70 mins of recording on a 4gig card, which is about the internal battery life too. I bough a few of them and am playing with recording my 40min (motorcycle) commute every day... Again, they miss some of the stated requirements, but at $15 or so they can be forgiven some faults...

mhb 16y ago

Might as well add an accelerometer to automatically save if it exceeds a threshold.

sophacles 16y ago
As long as its in addition to the button, instead of in place of it. Lots of aggressive driver actions don't result in crazy acceleration on my part.
- larcher 16y ago
  I would think the accelerometer trigger would be in case of any unintentional dismount or an unscheduled end-of-trip, rather than a cyclist powered change in speed. But yes, have both. Options are good.
  - sophacles 16y ago
    I was using the term acceleration in it's physics sense "a change in the velocity vector" which means both speed and direction. Crazy meant multiple rapid changes in direction and speed, like say, falling off a bike would result in this "crazy acceleration" as would being hit by something. Also, sometimes the reaction/result of aggressive drivers isn't catastrophic. For instance, today on my way home from work I had 2 different drivers decide to come within a foot of my bike while passing. This is a calculated move, intended to scare me and teach me a lesson. I know because in one case, I asked when we both got to the same red light, and in the other, the rude gestures of the driver. An accelerometer would have shown nothing, as any reaction on my part would probably have been worse than just hoping the driver didn't judge wrong. It's not just "tight driving" either, other times drivers are rude, make threatening actions with their vehicles or just plain block my motion preventing me from changing lanes, making turns, and so on, which should be captured, but don't cause anything particularly noticeable in accelerometer data. Alternately, the false positive rate is probably pretty high here too. I have at least 2 places on my daily commute where I short-cut thru alleys and make some pretty jarring curb passages. There is one particularly tricky transition from street to bike path involving 3 turns in a very short distance (30ish feet). On fast days I bet it looks more like reacting to an aggressive driver than most aggressive driver reactions (from an accelerometer point of view).
- mhb 16y ago
  Maybe an expletive detector too, then.
MartinCron 16y ago
I hadn't even thought about the accelerometer. That would be useful information to persist as well, and also available on smartphone platforms.
- something 16y ago
  um, there (should be) an app for that? the whole setup could probably bluetooth to a mobile device as a recorder. i might want to know it's dedicated, though. if the wheel is spinning, the unit is on and recording.

ydant 16y ago

There's this - http://www.vagabondish.com/looxcie-wearable-bluetooth-camera-headset http://www.vagabondish.com/looxcie-wearable-bluetooth-camera... And also the GoPro http://www.goprocamera.com/ http://www.goprocamera.com/ Neither of which quite match your requirements, though.

sophacles 16y ago
Cool, thanks!
bigiain 16y ago
And these, which are all over eBay (search for "808 camera", this is just the first google hit I got, not any particular recommendation for this seller): http://cgi.ebay.com/808-Car-Keys-Micro-camera-Spy-DVR-Support-TF-Card-/280432430437 http://cgi.ebay.com/808-Car-Keys-Micro-camera-Spy-DVR-Suppor... and _really_ inexpensive - you get ~60-70 mins of recording on a 4gig card, which is about the internal battery life too. I bough a few of them and am playing with recording my 40min (motorcycle) commute every day... Again, they miss some of the stated requirements, but at $15 or so they can be forgiven some faults...