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It would be nice if productivity was measured by line of codes. That way we get rid of all the managers and executives who spend their days to come up with stup
by fma 8y ago
It would be nice if productivity was measured by line of codes. That way we get rid of all the managers and executives who spend their days to come up with stupid ideas and say 'make it so by arbitrary date'.
- myth_drannon 8y agoWell as with developers, some managers are good and some not. Let's not follow Larry Page's attempt to fire all the project managers at Google in 2001 http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/04/25/google_s_larry_page_the_co_founder_s_untold_story.html http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/04/25/googl...
- fma 8y agoInteresting article. I had no idea Google was called BackRub? I was using Google...in 2001 (even before?) and never knew of it as BackRub. Anyways - I probably wouldn't want to fire all managers. But based on the directives they come up with, I feel managers and executives have lost touch with their product and process. It would be nice of they could have a dose of "Undercover boss" and be forced to do some worker bee work once in a while. Then their directives would probably be closer to reality. I work in the internal integration space and work with lots of teams. Very often they'd come up with some requirement, or a date that is far fetched and it all comes from above. I'd need to talk some sense into people and tell them why their idea is bad, or their timeline poses a risk.
- croon 8y agoYeah, I can't wait to get pay deducted for days when you remove fluff from the code base or refactor code into more readable and efficient software. Lines-of-code/time is a terrible measurement.
- fma 8y agoMy comment was actually sarcasm...because you can't measure middle managers and executives output by lines of code since they don't actually code but more often than not they are the ones pushing for LOC measurment - or some other objective measurement, when they themselves have no quantitative way to measure output.
- croon 8y agoFair enough, I didn't pick up on that. I fully agree with that last comment.
- paulie_a 8y agoMy greatest accomplishment in the last year was deleting 30-50 thousand lines of code. I've written probably a thousand. Some days I spend 6 hours debugging something to change 4 lines.
- Humdeee 8y agoThis often encourages bloated and less elegant, simple code
- fma 8y agoMy comment was actually sarcasm...because you can't measure middle managers and executives output by lines of code since they don't actually code. Not sure why so many people are offended on the idea when it's not even possible to implement.
- TheCoelacanth 8y agoMeasuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight.