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The media is presenting it to you as "Hindu nationalism" and what not. You need to really know what's happening on ground, which you cannot at all appreciate si
by no1name 8y ago
The media is presenting it to you as "Hindu nationalism" and what not. You need to really know what's happening on ground, which you cannot at all appreciate sitting in West by reading articles by random journos. I'd direct you to read A million mutinies now by VS Naipaul about Hindu awakening and what social churning is taking place in India. Also, there is no need to be alarmed as people are merely connecting to their roots and tradition. The current ideology of liberalism obviously detests the word tradition, so I can understand that Westerners are worried about some weird stuff going on in India. Greek and Roman philosophers were great of course, but none matched the heights to which Hindu philosophy went. And the height to which ancient Indian civilization went, there's no evidence to say that any other civilization went that far. Also, Hindus are still connected to that pagan past irrespective of thousands of years of invasion by various forces from the West (the Islamics, Church and colonialists). So there is a great desire to reach those heights. Past glory may be blinding, but to revel in belonging to the most powerful Western empire is something else. The sense of power and control can blind even the most level headed person. That said, the Hindu awakening is making the Hindus think of their future. Most importantly, Indians missed the Industrial revolution, which I can say is the main advantage West obtained. If West was so great, there'd be no reason for it to decline so quickly. Basically, Western civilization is a 300 year blip in the whole human history.
- KozmoNau7 8y agoFrom what I see, Hindu nationalists are massively trying to rewrite history, forcing changes to school textbooks and curricula, to fit their political agenda. That is a bad path to go down, no matter who you are or where you come from. This is not merely something written about by "random journos", this is coming from critical journalists and historians within India. >"The current ideology of liberalism obviously detests the word tradition" Far from it. Tradition has strong bonds that bind societies and people together, they should not merely be cast away. However, one must not be blinded by tradition, especially not by traditions that are much younger than they appear, and traditions that are pushed by those with a political agenda. >"Greek and Roman philosophers were great of course, but none matched the heights to which Hindu philosophy went. And the height to which ancient Indian civilization went, there's no evidence to say that any other civilization went that far." Those are extremely subjective statements, without any qualifiers at all. It is not enough to simply make a statement of superiority, and expect others to blindly believe it. Did ancient India reach great heights? Sure, for the time period in which it happened. But the following fall was dizzying, and other civilizations (Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome and so) arguably reached similar or greater heights. It is not an easy thing to quantify, since they reached their ultimate heights in different areas. Striving for greatness is awesome. But it should not be built on a basis of politically rewriting history to fit a particular narrative. You're obviously proud, which is good. But you also seem to have bought in to the political narrative, being pushed by those with a nationalistic agenda. The situation is bad in a lot of places in India today, but unchecked nationalism is never the answer and turning a blind eye to deeply set cultural and societal issues is not a solution.
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- no1name 8y agoThanks, I'm not interested in your lecture about Hindu nationalism. You have no idea about what's going on in India. As you say the change in history is coming from historians and critical journos. I agree with you and it's all the more better in that case! You are totally sold off on your media and what your politicians feed you. Of course they have told you the narrative that Western civilization is the best and you judge everything from point of view of what happened in world war 2. But history of Hindus is thousands of years older than a war which they don't care about. Maybe you made some effort to learn that Eastern civilizations were good as well. But you never cared to gain the right perspective because you revel in your civilizational glory or maybe you just don't care. But Indians and Hindus do care. Indians don't just care for their societal traditions, they also care for their philosophical tradition, which was obviously most supreme. You won't understand as Westerners have barely any tradition to look back to. All you folks want is to go back to 1950s or something, which is nothing but hilarious. Indians have millenniums of tradition behind them, which is something.
- KozmoNau7 8y agoAs I've already stated, these baseless personal attacks are absolutely uncalled for. You do not know me, nor do you know "my people". I would appreciate it if you refrained from any further pointless stereotyping and blatant misconceptions. Thank you.
- no1name 8y agoIt will also be better if you educate yourself of others' culture before lecturing them about it. Thanks. But you might just be representing what is called the "worst of Western civilization".
- no1name 8y agoAnd you are such a dummb piece of shiit that you are flagging my comments. So much for your culture of debate and Western civilization! You should be banned from all social media and engaging in any discussion.