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I understand that as we become more multi-cultural, there is a decrease in the percieved kinship between city dwellers and thus less alturistic behavior. Maybe

I understand that as we become more multi-cultural, there is a decrease in the percieved kinship between city dwellers and thus less alturistic behavior. Maybe more multi-ethnic, but I'm not sure about multi-cultural. If anything, at least we globally share a baseline of culture because of the internet and I only see that increasing...hopefully.

mantas 8y ago
Hopefully not. Monocultural world would be a very boring place. We need true cultural diversity on planet earth. Not this mono-culture-but-multiple-colors-and-dongles bullshit.
- xvire 8y ago
  Yes, wars, fueled by cultural differences are not great, but god save us from boredom.
  - mantas 8y ago
    If your goal is to have no wars, plenty of scum would gladly take the wheel and force their culture upon you.
- hutzlibu 8y ago
  He said a baseline of culture. Not global monoculture standard
  - mantas 8y ago
    What if baseline happens to be China and Russia style? I'd rather not rely on baselines.
- gepi79 8y ago
  Important cultural differences (not festivities and language but religion and morality and ethics) means that people of a culture can not enjoy or even tolerate another culture. As European, I can only hope the world will adapt a secular vegan European-like culture and not e.g. the war loving US culture with lying government officials (even worse than some European nations) or the Chinese culture (e.g. Social Credits and no freedom of speech) or the work culture of South Korea and Japan or a Muslim/Sharia culture or a culture of genital mutilation of boys and girls or a culture of throwing acid in the faces of people or a caste system like in India.
  - mantas 8y ago
    Why would you have to be able to enjoy another culture? As long as the cultures live apart and don't bother each other, it's good enough. Just like being vegan. As long as I don't force you to eat meat and you let me enjoy a stake with cheese, all is good. But once we try to establish baseline (either all-vegan or mandatory-meat), all goes down the shitter...
    - gepi79 8y ago
      Multiple cultures are not like multiple dishes for a meal. There are important and often deadly conflicts (e.g. coercion, mutilation, poverty, war) related to cultural differences and (IMO bad) cultures themselves. I am in favor of a prohibition of cheap animal products because of the economic, ethical, ecological and medical problems related to animal products. I am in favor of a limitation or prohibition of certain cultures. E.g. the Islamic veil or family customs that lead to psychological and physical harm or forced marriages.
      - mantas 8y ago
        My point is that looking for common baseline for everybody even for a meal leads to conflicts. While coexisting at peaceful terms is less conflicts. On top of that, even if we'd come up with a common baseline, I'm sure people would invent differences in no time. Give it some time and somebody in vegan culture may realise that animals are edible and damn tasty. Prohibition of cheap, all-shortcuts-taken, foods is not vegan issue. Veggies, animal-related foods and meat should be responsibly made and focus on quality (as in nutrition and taste, not only nice looking) rather than price alone. You'd have to redo Islamic culture from the ground up and forcefully reeducate several generations of people. And it's questionable wether it'd be a success. Soviets and Nazis did try to build the new perfect man. Neither approach was pretty. Let's not go down that path again. Yes, some people may seem backwards (as we do for them). But hey, live and let them live. As long as neither of us bother each other and live in their own countries ruled as each of us see fit.
        gepi79 8y ago

mantas 8y ago

Hopefully not. Monocultural world would be a very boring place. We need true cultural diversity on planet earth. Not this mono-culture-but-multiple-colors-and-dongles bullshit.

xvire 8y ago
Yes, wars, fueled by cultural differences are not great, but god save us from boredom.
- mantas 8y ago
  If your goal is to have no wars, plenty of scum would gladly take the wheel and force their culture upon you.
hutzlibu 8y ago
He said a baseline of culture. Not global monoculture standard
- mantas 8y ago
  What if baseline happens to be China and Russia style? I'd rather not rely on baselines.
gepi79 8y ago
Important cultural differences (not festivities and language but religion and morality and ethics) means that people of a culture can not enjoy or even tolerate another culture. As European, I can only hope the world will adapt a secular vegan European-like culture and not e.g. the war loving US culture with lying government officials (even worse than some European nations) or the Chinese culture (e.g. Social Credits and no freedom of speech) or the work culture of South Korea and Japan or a Muslim/Sharia culture or a culture of genital mutilation of boys and girls or a culture of throwing acid in the faces of people or a caste system like in India.
- mantas 8y ago
  Why would you have to be able to enjoy another culture? As long as the cultures live apart and don't bother each other, it's good enough. Just like being vegan. As long as I don't force you to eat meat and you let me enjoy a stake with cheese, all is good. But once we try to establish baseline (either all-vegan or mandatory-meat), all goes down the shitter...
  - gepi79 8y ago
    Multiple cultures are not like multiple dishes for a meal. There are important and often deadly conflicts (e.g. coercion, mutilation, poverty, war) related to cultural differences and (IMO bad) cultures themselves. I am in favor of a prohibition of cheap animal products because of the economic, ethical, ecological and medical problems related to animal products. I am in favor of a limitation or prohibition of certain cultures. E.g. the Islamic veil or family customs that lead to psychological and physical harm or forced marriages.
    - mantas 8y ago
      My point is that looking for common baseline for everybody even for a meal leads to conflicts. While coexisting at peaceful terms is less conflicts. On top of that, even if we'd come up with a common baseline, I'm sure people would invent differences in no time. Give it some time and somebody in vegan culture may realise that animals are edible and damn tasty. Prohibition of cheap, all-shortcuts-taken, foods is not vegan issue. Veggies, animal-related foods and meat should be responsibly made and focus on quality (as in nutrition and taste, not only nice looking) rather than price alone. You'd have to redo Islamic culture from the ground up and forcefully reeducate several generations of people. And it's questionable wether it'd be a success. Soviets and Nazis did try to build the new perfect man. Neither approach was pretty. Let's not go down that path again. Yes, some people may seem backwards (as we do for them). But hey, live and let them live. As long as neither of us bother each other and live in their own countries ruled as each of us see fit.
      - gepi79 8y ago