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"People" too - as inconsistently numbered as data.

by jMyles 8y ago

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pluma 8y ago
That one is actually because it's two different words: "people" is the plural form of "person", i.e. one person, two people, as a group "people" (pl. "peoples") is a group of people as a unit, e.g. a tribe or an ethnic group or the citizens of a country "persons" is ALSO the plural of "person" but only used when you talk about individuals rather than a group (e.g. "person of interest" -> "persons of interest", not "people of interest") Yes this is a bit awkward and yes sometimes what's grammatically possible still sounds awkward even to native speakers (e.g. I'd argue "the polices" is a legitimate term when discussing multiple police organisations of a country as an abstract group but it sounds extremely wrong to most people apparently).
- wafflebear 8y ago
  I believe "persons" is similar to "people" but differs in register. For example, there is a UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. Obviously, native speakers would say "people with disabilities" in almost every situation, but that would be too informal for the title of a treaty. Likewise, law enforcement use formal speech such as "persons of interest" to bolster their authority, but nobody would ever say "I sat next to two Australian persons on the flight".
  - sverige 8y ago
    Um, I'm a native speaker and might say "I sat next to two Australian persons on the flight." Admittedly, it's more likely I'd say "I sat next to two Ozzies on the flight." (No, not Aussies, Ozzies. Like Ozzy Ozbourne. Because that's how it sounds to me when Aussies say 'Aussies.')
notahacker 8y ago
Its uneasy coexistence with the usually-technically-valid-and-occasionally-preferred persons is the real problem. Peoples is pretty rare and only for the specific case where it's referring to a plurality of tribes/nations as peoples...
- jMyles 8y ago
  Still - I'm pretty sure I encounter the word "peoples" more frequently than the word "datum." :-)
  - whatsstolat 8y ago
    I see the word datum often in code
    - jMyles 8y ago
      Yeah? I don't. And it doesn't seem like a great name in code. Link me to some examples?

"People" too - as inconsistently numbered as data.

by jMyles 8y ago

"People" too - as inconsistently numbered as data.

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pluma 8y ago

That one is actually because it's two different words: "people" is the plural form of "person", i.e. one person, two people, as a group "people" (pl. "peoples") is a group of people as a unit, e.g. a tribe or an ethnic group or the citizens of a country "persons" is ALSO the plural of "person" but only used when you talk about individuals rather than a group (e.g. "person of interest" -> "persons of interest", not "people of interest") Yes this is a bit awkward and yes sometimes what's grammatically possible still sounds awkward even to native speakers (e.g. I'd argue "the polices" is a legitimate term when discussing multiple police organisations of a country as an abstract group but it sounds extremely wrong to most people apparently).

wafflebear 8y ago
I believe "persons" is similar to "people" but differs in register. For example, there is a UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. Obviously, native speakers would say "people with disabilities" in almost every situation, but that would be too informal for the title of a treaty. Likewise, law enforcement use formal speech such as "persons of interest" to bolster their authority, but nobody would ever say "I sat next to two Australian persons on the flight".
- sverige 8y ago
  Um, I'm a native speaker and might say "I sat next to two Australian persons on the flight." Admittedly, it's more likely I'd say "I sat next to two Ozzies on the flight." (No, not Aussies, Ozzies. Like Ozzy Ozbourne. Because that's how it sounds to me when Aussies say 'Aussies.')

notahacker 8y ago

Its uneasy coexistence with the usually-technically-valid-and-occasionally-preferred persons is the real problem. Peoples is pretty rare and only for the specific case where it's referring to a plurality of tribes/nations as peoples...

jMyles 8y ago
Still - I'm pretty sure I encounter the word "peoples" more frequently than the word "datum." :-)
- whatsstolat 8y ago
  I see the word datum often in code
  - jMyles 8y ago
    Yeah? I don't. And it doesn't seem like a great name in code. Link me to some examples?