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Yes, In America we still have freedom... ;) So no the government will not regulate if I have 42U rack (like do right now behind me as a Homelab no mining) G

by syshum 8y ago

Yes, In America we still have freedom... ;) So no the government will not regulate if I have 42U rack (like do right now behind me as a Homelab no mining) Getting more power to your place is between the power company and property owner not the government, I can get as much power feeds as the power company will sell me, and generally they will only ask question related to saftey. Want 400amp service to your Garage, no problem 99.9% of the time

briandear 8y ago
Why is this being downvoted? Are there people on HN that actually think the government should tell people what they can do in the privacy of their own home? What a bunch of totalitarians. Perhaps the government should be able to dictate who people can sleep with or what media they are allowed to consume. Why are there so many people comfortable with letting governments dictate freedoms when those freedoms aren’t harming anyone?
- Itaxpica 8y ago
  Did you read the part in the article where server racks set up in apartments not designed for the load are starting electrical fires in residential areas? Kind of a weird definition of “not harming anyone”.
  - rdiddly 8y ago
    Certain phrases in the parent ("own home") and grandparent ("property owner") would seem to make this comment about apartments somewhat inapplicable. But it really is as simple as that - if you own the equipment and/or can safely handle the load and/or can bear all the costs yourself of any un-safety, then you can do whatever you want. If what you do affects others, those others will object, either in the form of an ultimatum/eviction/lawsuit by your landlord, a complaint/lawsuit by your neighbor(s), an ultimatum or unpaid claim by your insurance company, or an ultimatum/discontinuation of service by the electricity provider. "In America we still have freedom" and calling people "totalitarians" are both a little off-the-hook which I think explains the downvotes.
- stordoff 8y ago
  It being "in the privacy of their own home" isn't sufficient to say that the government shouldn't regulate it -- there are good reasons for certain activities to be regulated (that's not to say the government should be able to regulate ALL activities). I can run a sewage treatment plant next door to you in the privacy of my own home, but I doubt you'd be happy with it, and the same is true here--there are externalities that affect other people, such as more electricity being consumed (potentially driving up prices, and less directly potentially causing pollution) and causing fires due to poor electrical safety.
  - syshum 8y ago
    >>I can run a sewage treatment plant next door to you in the privacy of my own home, Aside from this hyperbolic statement being completely unfeasible and moronic on its face, provided there is not clear, articulable danger to my person or my propery you should be allowed to do anything you want on your property, including running BitCoin Miners. if you cross into posing a direct and articulable danger to others then that can be address on a case by case basis, but the comments I was responding to were going on about "commercial use of property" and how they could not believe in the US a person was allowed to run any mining equipment in a residential home. No where did any the commenters I was replying to stated any articulable dangers they were concerned with. Let me as you this, do you support zoning regulation on this like color of the home, if you have a garden on your front yard, the type and height of grass (or mandates that you have grass) etc etc etc etc
    - stordoff 8y ago
      > provided there is not clear, articulable danger to my person or my propery you should be allowed to do anything you want on your property, including running BitCoin Miners. Which is why I went on the clear negatives that it poses. > do you support zoning regulation on this like color of the home, if you have a garden on your front yard, the type and height of grass (or mandates that you have grass) No, but I was not arguing that the government _should_ be able to regulate _everything_, but that when negative effects can be identified, "it is in the privacy of my own home" is not enough to counter that -- the negative effects spread beyond your home, and detrimentally effect others (in a concrete way, not just that it is something they don't like).
- syshum 8y ago
  >>Why is this being downvoted? Are there people on HN that actually think the government Yes, HN has a long history of being Authoritarian. Libertarian views are not welcome here.

by syshum 8y ago

briandear 8y ago

Why is this being downvoted? Are there people on HN that actually think the government should tell people what they can do in the privacy of their own home? What a bunch of totalitarians. Perhaps the government should be able to dictate who people can sleep with or what media they are allowed to consume. Why are there so many people comfortable with letting governments dictate freedoms when those freedoms aren’t harming anyone?

Itaxpica 8y ago
Did you read the part in the article where server racks set up in apartments not designed for the load are starting electrical fires in residential areas? Kind of a weird definition of “not harming anyone”.
- rdiddly 8y ago
  Certain phrases in the parent ("own home") and grandparent ("property owner") would seem to make this comment about apartments somewhat inapplicable. But it really is as simple as that - if you own the equipment and/or can safely handle the load and/or can bear all the costs yourself of any un-safety, then you can do whatever you want. If what you do affects others, those others will object, either in the form of an ultimatum/eviction/lawsuit by your landlord, a complaint/lawsuit by your neighbor(s), an ultimatum or unpaid claim by your insurance company, or an ultimatum/discontinuation of service by the electricity provider. "In America we still have freedom" and calling people "totalitarians" are both a little off-the-hook which I think explains the downvotes.
stordoff 8y ago
It being "in the privacy of their own home" isn't sufficient to say that the government shouldn't regulate it -- there are good reasons for certain activities to be regulated (that's not to say the government should be able to regulate ALL activities). I can run a sewage treatment plant next door to you in the privacy of my own home, but I doubt you'd be happy with it, and the same is true here--there are externalities that affect other people, such as more electricity being consumed (potentially driving up prices, and less directly potentially causing pollution) and causing fires due to poor electrical safety.
- syshum 8y ago
  >>I can run a sewage treatment plant next door to you in the privacy of my own home, Aside from this hyperbolic statement being completely unfeasible and moronic on its face, provided there is not clear, articulable danger to my person or my propery you should be allowed to do anything you want on your property, including running BitCoin Miners. if you cross into posing a direct and articulable danger to others then that can be address on a case by case basis, but the comments I was responding to were going on about "commercial use of property" and how they could not believe in the US a person was allowed to run any mining equipment in a residential home. No where did any the commenters I was replying to stated any articulable dangers they were concerned with. Let me as you this, do you support zoning regulation on this like color of the home, if you have a garden on your front yard, the type and height of grass (or mandates that you have grass) etc etc etc etc
  - stordoff 8y ago
    > provided there is not clear, articulable danger to my person or my propery you should be allowed to do anything you want on your property, including running BitCoin Miners. Which is why I went on the clear negatives that it poses. > do you support zoning regulation on this like color of the home, if you have a garden on your front yard, the type and height of grass (or mandates that you have grass) No, but I was not arguing that the government _should_ be able to regulate _everything_, but that when negative effects can be identified, "it is in the privacy of my own home" is not enough to counter that -- the negative effects spread beyond your home, and detrimentally effect others (in a concrete way, not just that it is something they don't like).
syshum 8y ago
>>Why is this being downvoted? Are there people on HN that actually think the government Yes, HN has a long history of being Authoritarian. Libertarian views are not welcome here.