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Peterson is fervently pro free speech and against politically correct culture, so unsurprising 4chan is smitten. He’s not right wing himself though, he’s a cla

by dahdum 8y ago

Peterson is fervently pro free speech and against politically correct culture, so unsurprising 4chan is smitten. He’s not right wing himself though, he’s a classical liberal with libertarian leanings. I think of him more like Bill Maher without the comedy.

enimodas 8y ago
You misunderstand, 4chan doesn't like him. Maybe also see https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-pete... for how his pro free speech is only on a case by case basis.
- dahdum 8y ago
  I read that and don’t see the inconsistency with regards to free speech. If he did call for budget reductions on universities that do not protect it, that’s logically consistent with supporting free speech even if the budget reduction caused less (in his view) non-free speech. As an American I can’t wrap my head around the Canadian acceptance of criminal penalties to compel speech, based on the evolving views of an extrajudicial tribunal. It’s terrifying to have that power in the hands of the far right or far left.
jrs95 8y ago
Interesting. I fit more the mold you’re describing myself, maybe I shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss him.
- dahdum 8y ago
  You’ll disagree with him, I certainly do, but I wouldn’t dismiss him. I think he’s too utilitarian on family and marriage, but his position is intellectually defensible. For example, he’s pro gay marriage but believes research saying children have better outcomes with exposure to both sides of the (traditionally gender-based) parental roles. He doesn’t claim to know a solution to the latter, or even that one needs to be be found. Only that it should be researched and discussed. It’s not hard to take that kind of view and spin it to something abhorrent if you take away the nuance and context.

by dahdum 8y ago

enimodas 8y ago

You misunderstand, 4chan doesn't like him. Maybe also see https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-pete... for how his pro free speech is only on a case by case basis.

dahdum 8y ago
I read that and don’t see the inconsistency with regards to free speech. If he did call for budget reductions on universities that do not protect it, that’s logically consistent with supporting free speech even if the budget reduction caused less (in his view) non-free speech. As an American I can’t wrap my head around the Canadian acceptance of criminal penalties to compel speech, based on the evolving views of an extrajudicial tribunal. It’s terrifying to have that power in the hands of the far right or far left.

jrs95 8y ago

Interesting. I fit more the mold you’re describing myself, maybe I shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss him.

dahdum 8y ago
You’ll disagree with him, I certainly do, but I wouldn’t dismiss him. I think he’s too utilitarian on family and marriage, but his position is intellectually defensible. For example, he’s pro gay marriage but believes research saying children have better outcomes with exposure to both sides of the (traditionally gender-based) parental roles. He doesn’t claim to know a solution to the latter, or even that one needs to be be found. Only that it should be researched and discussed. It’s not hard to take that kind of view and spin it to something abhorrent if you take away the nuance and context.