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Let them have a name for defeat of their ecosystem. Its apparent that we devout Hindus are alone in the world. None of the world institution lean to speak on be

by aq3cn 8y ago

Let them have a name for defeat of their ecosystem. Its apparent that we devout Hindus are alone in the world. None of the world institution lean to speak on behalf of us. It will not stay like this for long.

notyme 8y ago
It is tragic that being "devout hindu" has turned into "Us vs. Them" when in fact hindu religion advocates universality for all living beings (chetana) even non-living (jada) but the profound lessons are conveniently overlooked for sectarian politics. The core message of Bhagvata-Gita and Bhagvata-Purana, two of the most revered scriptures is the "Everything is the Lord, there is nothing besides the Lord" Bhagvada-Gita Chapter 7 Verse 19, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ "Vasudevah sarvam iti", everything is the Lord there is nothing besides the Lord. Jesus Christ said "If you do not love your brother whom you can see, how can you love God whom you cannot see?" If "devout hindus/christians/etc" realize this message the World could be heaven on earth. After most hindu prayers there is invocation of "Shanti Shanti Shanti" i.e. Peace Peace Peace to All. It is most unfortunate that such ancient religion has forgotten its core principle. [0]https://www.vedabase.com/en/bg/7/19 https://www.vedabase.com/en/bg/7/19
- deleted 8y ago
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- aq3cn 8y ago
  I made a statement saying that I feel that people of my community dont have global voice. It is my perception. You quoted/misquoted from here or there and proved me sectarian along with saying we forgot our core principle. Let me start: Did you hear about this controvercy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_textbook_controversy_over_Hindu_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_textbook_controvers... When I say I am alone, I mean that I dont expect my fair representation in global stage as in the example above. Looks like you know a bit about Gita. Allow me to ask two simple question? 1. Why did Krishna guide Arjun to kill Kaurawa? 2. Why did Krishna belive that Duryodhan does not deserve power? If you cannot answer these simple questions, please dont preach me anything about Gita.
  - notyme 8y ago
    You deleted your previous question while I was composing... >1. Why did Krishna guide Arjun to kill Kaurawa? After Pandavas completed their 13 years of exile imposed by Kauravas and demanded for half of the kingdom which was rightfully theirs, Duryodhana adamantly refused. Lord Krishna wanted to avoid war so he went to negotiate with Kauravas on behalf of Pandavas and he asked for just 5 villages instead of half the kingdom, Duryodhana famously replied "Without war, I will not yield even the amount of land on a pinhead",so war was inevitable. > 2. Why did Krishna believe that Duryodhan does not deserve power? Had Duryodhana acceded to Lord Krishna's demand of mere 5 villages instead of half kingdom, Duryodhana and inturn Kauravas would have lived but Duryodhana was envious of Pandavas and that led to his downfall. Initially, Arjuna is reluctant to take up arms against his own cousins but Lord Krishna advocated that doing nothing is also doing something i.e. tolerating injustice is also a sin as a warrior. Arjuna was thus convinced of his duty as warrior and was victorious in this holy war/ dharma yudha. Hence,it was Duryodhana's own undoing and in this "holy war", i.e. "dharma yuddha", the Kauravas perished. P.S: In India, the word "dharma" is mistranslated as "religion" but its true meaning is duty. One of the key precepts of Bhagvata-Gita is to perform your duties without expectation of fruit of your labour i.e. nishkama karma yoga. Feel free to query further. Peace.
    - aq3cn 8y ago
      I deleted my earlier response, because it was not logically ordered for others to make sense. So I rewrote it. I still dont know if you agree with me on this that Hindus dont have fair representation in english speaking global media or textbooks. Your answers are factual, and lack psychological dimension. So let me add another question. From your answers, it appears that it was easier for Krishna to convince Arjuna to kill his brothers & relatives than convincing Duryodhan of giving up five villages. If Krishna was really a god or god like, why/how did he fail to convince Duryodhan for giving up villages? What stoped him for pursuing Duryodhan one more time? Why Krishna's "godly" influence didnt work on Duryodhan? Why was war necessary? few additions to your answer: Dharma also means people with character, thats why Yudhisthir is known as Dharmraaj. Its opposite is Adharmi (अधर्मी) which means undisciplined person. I dont think Dharma yuddha will translate into "Holy war". Dharma also means discipline or law. So Dharma yuddha means a war to bring law on the land. It is similar to how various countries are attempting to bring self-sustaining democracy in Afganistan.
- eklavya 8y ago
  Forgotten how? Do you see the percentage of non Hindu population in India going up or going down?

by aq3cn 8y ago

notyme 8y ago

It is tragic that being "devout hindu" has turned into "Us vs. Them" when in fact hindu religion advocates universality for all living beings (chetana) even non-living (jada) but the profound lessons are conveniently overlooked for sectarian politics. The core message of Bhagvata-Gita and Bhagvata-Purana, two of the most revered scriptures is the "Everything is the Lord, there is nothing besides the Lord" Bhagvada-Gita Chapter 7 Verse 19, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ "Vasudevah sarvam iti", everything is the Lord there is nothing besides the Lord. Jesus Christ said "If you do not love your brother whom you can see, how can you love God whom you cannot see?" If "devout hindus/christians/etc" realize this message the World could be heaven on earth. After most hindu prayers there is invocation of "Shanti Shanti Shanti" i.e. Peace Peace Peace to All. It is most unfortunate that such ancient religion has forgotten its core principle. [0]https://www.vedabase.com/en/bg/7/19 https://www.vedabase.com/en/bg/7/19

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aq3cn 8y ago
I made a statement saying that I feel that people of my community dont have global voice. It is my perception. You quoted/misquoted from here or there and proved me sectarian along with saying we forgot our core principle. Let me start: Did you hear about this controvercy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_textbook_controversy_over_Hindu_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_textbook_controvers... When I say I am alone, I mean that I dont expect my fair representation in global stage as in the example above. Looks like you know a bit about Gita. Allow me to ask two simple question? 1. Why did Krishna guide Arjun to kill Kaurawa? 2. Why did Krishna belive that Duryodhan does not deserve power? If you cannot answer these simple questions, please dont preach me anything about Gita.
- notyme 8y ago
  You deleted your previous question while I was composing... >1. Why did Krishna guide Arjun to kill Kaurawa? After Pandavas completed their 13 years of exile imposed by Kauravas and demanded for half of the kingdom which was rightfully theirs, Duryodhana adamantly refused. Lord Krishna wanted to avoid war so he went to negotiate with Kauravas on behalf of Pandavas and he asked for just 5 villages instead of half the kingdom, Duryodhana famously replied "Without war, I will not yield even the amount of land on a pinhead",so war was inevitable. > 2. Why did Krishna believe that Duryodhan does not deserve power? Had Duryodhana acceded to Lord Krishna's demand of mere 5 villages instead of half kingdom, Duryodhana and inturn Kauravas would have lived but Duryodhana was envious of Pandavas and that led to his downfall. Initially, Arjuna is reluctant to take up arms against his own cousins but Lord Krishna advocated that doing nothing is also doing something i.e. tolerating injustice is also a sin as a warrior. Arjuna was thus convinced of his duty as warrior and was victorious in this holy war/ dharma yudha. Hence,it was Duryodhana's own undoing and in this "holy war", i.e. "dharma yuddha", the Kauravas perished. P.S: In India, the word "dharma" is mistranslated as "religion" but its true meaning is duty. One of the key precepts of Bhagvata-Gita is to perform your duties without expectation of fruit of your labour i.e. nishkama karma yoga. Feel free to query further. Peace.
  - aq3cn 8y ago
    I deleted my earlier response, because it was not logically ordered for others to make sense. So I rewrote it. I still dont know if you agree with me on this that Hindus dont have fair representation in english speaking global media or textbooks. Your answers are factual, and lack psychological dimension. So let me add another question. From your answers, it appears that it was easier for Krishna to convince Arjuna to kill his brothers & relatives than convincing Duryodhan of giving up five villages. If Krishna was really a god or god like, why/how did he fail to convince Duryodhan for giving up villages? What stoped him for pursuing Duryodhan one more time? Why Krishna's "godly" influence didnt work on Duryodhan? Why was war necessary? few additions to your answer: Dharma also means people with character, thats why Yudhisthir is known as Dharmraaj. Its opposite is Adharmi (अधर्मी) which means undisciplined person. I dont think Dharma yuddha will translate into "Holy war". Dharma also means discipline or law. So Dharma yuddha means a war to bring law on the land. It is similar to how various countries are attempting to bring self-sustaining democracy in Afganistan.
eklavya 8y ago
Forgotten how? Do you see the percentage of non Hindu population in India going up or going down?